Yes, I believe I was using the correct flags.  I also used

        -s -f -v

- Naomi

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mark Feblowitz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 3:03 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: RE: feature / enhancement request for schema validation
> 
> 
> Are you using the correct flags with the dom.Counter program? 
> Here's what my
> XercVal.bat file looks like:
> 
>       java  dom.Counter -s -f -v %1
> 
> 
> Code in Counter.java includes the following:
> 
>         System.err.println("  -v  | -V    Turn on/off validation.");
>         System.err.println("  -s  | -S    Turn on/off Schema 
> validation
> support.");
>         System.err.println("              NOTE: Not supported by all
> parsers.");
>         System.err.println("  -f  | -F    Turn on/off Schema full
> checking.");
> 
> 
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>  -----Original Message-----
> From:         Naomi Dushay [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 19, 2002 2:47 PM
> To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject:      feature / enhancement request for schema validation
> 
> In the course of trying to test my schemas with Xerces 2.0.1 
> and JDK1.4 from
> the command line, I had "some fun."  
> 
> It may be that using Xerces from within a java program is not 
> so difficult,
> but it doesn't seem outrageous to desire schema validation or 
> otherwise use
> Xerces from the command line.
> 
> Here's my tale of woe:
> 
> (note:  I reported the following to "bugzilla" and was told 
> this was not a
> bug, and to report it here.  So I am doing that.  However, I 
> am getting off
> this list, so please send any replies to me personally.  This 
> is basically a
> "lack of features/documentation" report.)
> 
> 
> I have a suite of XML schemas and I wanted to test if 
> 
> a) my schemas were valid
> b) my instance documents validated to these schemas
> 
> with Xerces 2.0.1.
> 
> 
> I couldn't find documentation on how to do either a or b with 
> Xerces 2.0.1
> from the command line.
> 
> For b., a colleague advised me to use the sample program sax.Counter.
> 
> I thought it would be a simple matter to run sax.Counter from 
> the command
> line 
> to accomplish this.  I set my path to include (in this order):
> 
> Xerces-2_0_1\xercesImpl.jar
> Xerces-2_0_1\xmlParserAPIs.jar
> j2sdk1.4.0\bin
> 
> I set my classpath to include:
> 
> Xerces-2_0_1\xercesSamples.jar
> 
> I used the command:
> 
> java sax.Counter -v -s -f (instance doc fname)
> 
> 
> I got this output:
> 
> "error: Unable to instantiate parser 
> (org.apache.xerces.parsers.SAXParser)"
> 
> This made no sense to me, as I could see that I had included 
> the correct
> files 
> in my path.
> 
> 
> As a shot in the dark, I tried to run sax.Counter within 
> JBuilder.  I was
> able 
> to set up a code library for Xerces-2_0_1\XercesImpl.jar  I 
> discovered that
> I 
> needed a separate code library for 
> Xerces-2_0_1\xmlParserAPIs.jar, and that
> if 
> I included both of these and told JBuilder to use JDK 1.4 as 
> the VM, and
> then ran the command above, I got error messages :
> 
> 
> [Error] oai-identifier.xsd:22:71: e-props-correct.2: Invalid value
> constraint 
> value 'oai' in element 'scheme'.
> 
> [Error] oai-identifier.xsd:25:72: e-props-correct.2: Invalid value
> constraint 
> value ':' in element 'delimiter'.
> 
> [Warning] testDBInsertColl.xml:24:16: schema_reference.4: 
> Failed to read
> schema 
> document 'null', because 1) could not find the document; 2) 
> the document
> could 
> not be read; 3) the root element of the document is not <xsd:schema>.
> 
> [Warning] testDBInsertColl.xml:39:46: schema_reference.4: 
> Failed to read
> schema 
> document 'null', because 1) could not find the document; 2) 
> the document
> could 
> not be read; 3) the root element of the document is not <xsd:schema>.
> 
> [Warning] testDBInsertColl.xml:58:16: schema_reference.4: 
> Failed to read
> schema 
> document 'null', because 1) could not find the document; 2) 
> the document
> could 
> not be read; 3) the root element of the document is not <xsd:schema>.
> 
> E:\NSDL\schemas\testDBInsertColl.xml: 2062 ms (70 elems, 18 
> attrs, 0 spaces,
> 
> 3414 chars)
> 
> 
> Okay, so now I'm running sax.Counter and plausibly doing some 
> sort of schema
> validation, because it's giving me errors on the 
> oai-identifier.xsd schema.
> 
> 
> 
> Problems:
> 
> 1.  My instance document validates fine with my schema suite 
> in XSV and in 
> topologi.  (XMLSpy has a bug, duly reported).  But Xerces is 
> reporting a 
> problem with the oai-identifier schema.  Which schema 
> validator is correct?
> How can I get more information on this error?
> 
> 2.  The error messages and warnings don't tell me very much 
> at all.  Which
> schemas loaded?  
> Which schemas is it seeking?   How can I better tell what's 
> going on so I
> can 
> debug my schemas and instance doc?
> 
> 3.  Why didn't I get this far from the command line?
> 
> I managed to answer this one.  By some stroke of luck, I had 
> a lead to look
> at the 
> JAXP FAQ at http://java.sun.com/xml/jaxp/faq.html.  And 
> there's a question
> in 
> that FAQ "How do I override the JAXP implementation in the JDK 1.4 and
> above?" 
> which tells me I need to use the "-D" option with the java 
> command.  So if I
> 
> leave my path and classpath as indicated above, I can use the 
> following
> command:
> 
> java -Djava.endorsed.dirs=(Xerces-2_0_1_DIR) sax.Counter -v -s -f %1
> 
> to do schema validation on an instance document.
> 
> 
> This seems like a very convoluted, obscure indication of how 
> to use Xerces
> 2.0.1 with JDK1.4 for 
> schema validation from the command line.
> 
> 
> These seem like pretty straightforward, desirable features.
> 
> Have I missed the appropriate documentation?
> 
> - how to check if schemas are valid  (still have no known way 
> to do this)
> - how to check instance documents against schemas
> - how to get good error reporting on schema validation.
> 
> 
> Thanks for any helpful insights, steers to documentation, or 
> acknowledgement
> that these are desirable, yet missing features (and might be 
> addressed in
> the next Xerces release).
> 
> 
> (Note:  I have already sent my instance doc and schemas to 
> the folks at
> bugzilla to address my problem number 1 above.)
> 
> - Naomi Dushay
> Cornell University Computer Science
> 
> 
> 
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