Hi Neil,


Catching up a week old mail..

Hi all,

In an attempt to generate some more discussion surrounding the issue I
raised in the message below, here are some ways by which we might move
forward.  For those who didn't see the previous thread, the Cole's Notes
version of the problem is that, as XNI is currently designed, there doesn't
seem to be any way of determining what the parser autodetected the encoding
of the DTD external subset to be--or any way of determining anything about
that encoding at all if the external subset doesn't happen to contain a
text decl.

Here are all the options that I've thought of:

1.  We could modify the XMLDTDHandler#externalSubset callback so that,
instead of looking like

     public void startExternalSubset(XMLResourceIdentifier identifier,
Augmentations augs)

it looks like

     public void startExternalSubset(XMLResourceIdentifier identifier,
String encoding, Augmentations augs)

This would make that callback much more symmetric to the startDocument
callback of the XMLDocumentHandler interface; unfortunately it has the
tremendous drawback of not being terribly backwards compatible.

2.  We could add a new callback to the XMLDTDHandler interface, something
like:

     public void externalSubsetEncoding(String encoding)

which we would advertise as occurring after the startExternalSubset
callback and before the textDecl call. While this would be far more
backward compatible, there's no precedent for anything like it in XNI;
also, the callback would only be useful for external subsets, since in all
other contexts we already have methods for conveying encoding information.

3.  We could use the Augmentations parameter of the startExternalSubset
callback.  This would preserve backward compatibility, but certainly
couldn't be accused of being beautiful; also , it would mark the first time
we've used Augmentations in Xerces for something at the level of a scanner.
So far, we've only employed that functionality in the context of schema
validation.

4.  We could amend the XMLLocator interface by adding a method like

     public String getEncoding()

on the lines of the SAX Locator2 interface. This again would only be
really useful in this single context,



I like this solution better. First it doesn't break anything. Second, It is not only useful with DTD but instance document, external parsed entity. Third, it is more user friendly.
With above change, application can always rely on Locator interface to get the encoding of the document/dtd/externalParsedEntity being parsed at any point of time. Well, One can argue encoding of the instance document can always be determined using the xmldecl() and startDocument() callbacks, But it is more pain for the user. Given the choice no body would like to write code to determine the exact encoding information, when it can be made available directly by the parser.


There is another use case,
<employee>
  &address;
</employee>

A document refers external entity, now to determine the exact encoding of the external parsed entity "address" User has to depend upon startGeneralEntity() and textDecl() callbacks.

But adding encoding information as part of Locator interface, User can always rely on "locator.getEncoding()" and doesn't need to duplicate code at different places. Makes life easy for user, moreover solves the problem which started all this issue :-)


Neeraj


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