Hello
I use plain XeTeX, and thanks to scholars of ancient philosophy who like to
have huge footnotes (sometimes including tabular matter or extensive
workings in formal logic) I do sometimes have to specify that certain groups
of lines cannot split between pages. Within tabular I just have
\noalign{\nobreak} between the lines of the table that aren't to be split,
and if a whole table was to be regarded as non-splittable I suppose I would
put it all within vertical box: \vbox{TABLE IN HERE}.
Wordy commands can always be reduced for quickness in typing, for example:
\def\nbr{\noalign{\nobreak}} would let you type \nbr between tabular lines
that aren't to be split.
Do TeX primitives like that not work in LaTeX?
Best wishes
John
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From: "Daniel Greenhoe" <[email protected]>
To: "Unicode-based TeX for Mac OS X and other platforms" <[email protected]>
Sent: 04 December 2011 12:26
Subject: Re: [XeTeX] tabular in footnote
Hi Zdenek,
As usual, thank you for all your hard work on my behalf. The
conclusion appears to be that there is no easy solution to the problem
(and it seems I am about the only person who has this problem).
If you do happen to come upon a solution some day, please feel free to
drop me a line. In the mean time I can maybe just tolerate the 2mm or
so overflow, or put a newline after the table.
Thank you again,
Dan
2011/12/4 Zdenek Wagner <[email protected]>:
Hi Dan,
first, as Keith wrote, as a reader I would not expect a table in a
footnote. If the table is important, why not to put it to the main
text? And if it is not important, why it is there at all? If it is of
less importance, it should rather appear in an apendix, not in a
footnote.
I am not such an expert. I tried to figure out how the page is
completed but I do not fully understand it. What is important to know
is that each box has 3 dimensions: height, depth and width. If tabular
is set, the resulting box has zero height. You can see it in my
example. You can also se a trick how I forced it to have nonzero
height but preserving the sum of the height + depth. The boxes are
treated differently depending whether they are inserted to the
vertical or horizontal list.
I am afraid that proper treatment of tables within footnotes will
require delving into the TeX page breaking algorithm and detailed
knowledge of LaTeX \output routine may also be needed. The LaTeX
\output is about 40 pages of code and I have never studied these
macros.
2011/12/4 Keith J. Schultz <[email protected]>:
Hi Dan,
Though, you problem is interesting, but I can believe you have this
problem.
You do realize that a footnote in general is not intend to contain this
kind of
information. Even though it may be possible in TeX, et al.
Most writers show poor style by stuffing all kinds of information in the
footnote
because they do not take the time to properly integrate what the have to
say into the main
text.
But, you can do whatever you want.
regards
Keith.
Am 04.12.2011 um 00:31 schrieb Daniel Greenhoe:
When I put a tabular in a footnote, the tabular often is extended
outside the text area. Besides placing a newline directive after the
tabular environment, is there anything I can do to prevent this
behavior? That is, how can I best ensure that tabulars in a footnote
get typeset completely within the text area? Here is an example:
\documentclass[12pt]{book}
\usepackage[xetex,a4paper,noheadfoot,nomarginpar,margin=20mm,showframe]{geometry}
\begin{document}%
xyz\footnote{%
%\raisebox{2.5mm}{
\begin{tabular}[t]{|l|}
\hline
abc\\
def\\
ghj\\
klm\\
\hline
\end{tabular}%\\
%}%
}
xyz\footnote{%
%\raisebox{2.5mm}{
\begin{tabular}[t]{|l|}
\hline
abc\\
def\\
ghj\\
klm\\
\hline
\end{tabular}%\\
%}%
}
\end{document}%
Many thanks in advance,
Dan
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