Brian J. Tarricone wrote: > Christian Dywan wrote: > >> Am Tue, 04 Nov 2008 11:10:35 -0800 >> schrieb "Brian J. Tarricone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >> >> >>> Christian Dywan wrote: >>> >>>> Am Mon, 3 Nov 2008 23:30:02 -0800 >>>> schrieb "Brian J. Tarricone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Tue, 04 Nov 2008 08:32:05 +0200 Besnik Bleta wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> Hello, >>>>>> >>>>>> Could anybody confirm that the following is correct: >>>>>> >>>>>> \n >>>>>> Usage: xfce-power-manager [options] \n >>>>>> \n >>>>>> Options:\n >>>>>> -h, --help Print this help message and exit\n >>>>>> -v, --version Print this help message and exit\n >>>>>> -r, --run Start xfce power manager\n >>>>>> -c, --customize Show Configuration dialog\n >>>>>> -q, --quit Quit any running xfce power manager\n >>>>>> \n >>>>>> >>>>>> or -h and -v options are doubling each other? >>>>>> >>>>> Yeah that's probably wrong... Also, Ali, the standard short option >>>>> for --version is -V, not -v. You'd use -v for 'verbose'. >>>>> >>>> That is not true. -v can mean --verbose but it does actually mean >>>> --version in lots of applications, including famous ones like Thunar >>>> and Terminal. >>>> >>> Then Thunar and Terminal should be fixed. Look at any GNU app and >>> you'll see that -V is the standard for version, -v for verbose. >>> >> That is still but a whishful thought. -v is --version in lots of other >> applications, and no less standard than the alternative. >> > > Actually, that's not true. I just grepped through the man pages on my > system, and I came up with 49 clear cases of -V as version, and only 9 > of -v as version. I was a bit overly restrictive in my regex, so I'm > sure I miss a bunch on both sides of the issue, but the law of averages > seems to suggest the proportion here isn't completely off. > > >> Compare to the usage of --help, -? and -h. You will have even less luck >> with suggesting that any of those is 'standard' >> > > Not relevant. We're talking about two short options that can mean two > different things (-V and -v, version and verbose). --help is always > help. -? is always help. -h is almost always help. There's no > confusion here, aside from apps that just don't accept one or the other. > Notable exceptions are -h in 'df', 'du', 'ls', etc. But I've never seen > an app use --help or -? for anything other than help. > > Relevant point: I'm making an executive decision: Xfce core apps shall > use -V to mean --version, and -v to mean --verbose. Obviously goodies > can do what they want, but I'd urge them to follow this convention as well. > > I believe goodies should always follow exactly what is done in Xfce core, those applications and plugins are developed for Xfce, and they should follow the same conventions.
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