On 1/7/21 1:38 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote:
On Thu, Jan 07, 2021 at 10:11:29AM +0000, Dridi Boukelmoune wrote:
I have retired everything discussed here.

Hi,

Earlier I asked whether the Xfce changes relating to pipewire could
trickle down to f33. I'm still planning to give rawhide with Xfce 4.16
and pipewire a try with a live image, but what I meant with f33 is
that currently I can't swap pulseaudio with pipewire-pulseaudio
because xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin currently has an explicit dependency
on the former.

It looks like both pulseaudio and pipewire-pulseaudio packages provide
pulseaudio-daemon, and maybe xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin could depend on
that to work with both implementations. And I was hoping this specific
change could trickle down to f33 so I could test pipewire on my
current f33/Xfce 4.14 system. That's my last show stopper right now.
The other packages that would be erased if I swapped both
implementations today can go away without bothering me too much.

Sorry if that was confusing, and thanks again for maintaining Xfce in Fedora.

Yeah, I totally think it makes sense to change xfce4-pulseaudio-plugin
to work with either and move it's dep to 'pulseaudio-daemon' from
'pulseaudio'.

kevin



There is a problem in doing this. If we move to pulseaudio-daemon, we lose our current volume mixer - pavucontrol (which, I am sure requires pulseaudio and is not generic). Other DEs, as far as I know (i.e. GNOME, MATE, and Cinnamon), have their own mixers. pulseaudio-plugin relies on an external mixer.

I would prefer not to move to without a suitable replacement for pavucontrol - if we can avoid it. Does pipewire provide a suitable replacement for pavucontrol?

Does this make sense?

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