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> THE UNCERTAINTY PRINCIPLE IS UNTENABLE
> 
> 
> By re-analysing Heisenberg's Gamma-Ray Microscope experiment and the ideal 
> experiment from which
> the uncertainty principle is derived, it is actually found that the uncertainty 
> principle can
> not be obtained from them. It is therefore found to be untenable. 
> 
> Key words: 
> uncertainty principle; Heisenberg's Gamma-Ray Microscope Experiment; ideal 
> experiment 
> 
> Ideal Experiment 1
> 
>                  Heisenberg's Gamma-Ray Microscope Experiment
> 
> 
> A free electron sits directly beneath the center of the microscope's lens (please 
> see AIP page
> http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08b.htm or diagram below) . The circular lens 
> forms a
> cone of angle 2A from the electron. The electron is then illuminated from the left 
> by gamma
> rays--high energy light which has the shortest wavelength. These yield the highest 
> resolution,
> for according to a principle of wave optics, the microscope can resolve (that is, 
> "see" or
> distinguish) objects to a size of dx, which is related to and to the wavelength L of 
> the gamma
> ray, by the expression: 
> 
> dx = L/(2sinA) (1) 
> 
> However, in quantum mechanics, where a light wave can act like a particle, a gamma 
> ray striking
> an electron gives it a kick. At the moment the light is diffracted by the electron 
> into the
> microscope lens, the electron is thrust to the right. To be observed by the 
> microscope, the
> gamma ray must be scattered into any angle within the cone of angle 2A. In quantum 
> mechanics,
> the gamma ray carries momentum as if it were a particle. The total momentum p is 
> related to the
> wavelength by the formula, 
> 
> p = h / L, where h is Planck's constant. (2) 
> 
> In the extreme case of diffraction of the gamma ray to the right edge of the lens, 
> the total
> momentum would be the sum of the electron's momentum P'x in the x direction and the 
> gamma ray's
> momentum in the x direction: 
> 
> P' x + (h sinA) / L', where L' is the wavelength of the deflected gamma ray. 
> 
> In the other extreme, the observed gamma ray recoils backward, just hitting the left 
> edge of the
> lens. In this case, the total momentum in the x direction is: 
> 
> P''x - (h sinA) / L''. 
> 
> The final x momentum in each case must equal the initial x momentum, since momentum 
> is
> conserved. Therefore, the final x momenta are equal to each other: 
> 
> P'x + (h sinA) / L' = P''x - (h sinA) / L'' (3) 
> 
> If A is small, then the wavelengths are approximately the same, 
> 
> L' ~ L" ~ L. So we have 
> 
> P''x - P'x = dPx ~ 2h sinA / L (4) 
> 
> Since dx = L/(2 sinA), we obtain a reciprocal relationship between the minimum 
> uncertainty in
> the measured position, dx, of the electron along the x axis and the uncertainty in 
> its momentum,
> dPx, in the x direction: 
> 
> dPx ~ h / dx or dPx dx ~ h. (5) 
> 
> For more than minimum uncertainty, the "greater than" sign may added. 
> 
> Except for the factor of 4pi and an equal sign, this is Heisenberg's uncertainty 
> relation for
> the simultaneous measurement of the position and momentum of an object. 
> 
> Re-analysis
> 
> To be seen by the microscope, the gamma ray must be scattered into any angle within 
> the cone of
> angle 2A. 
> 
> The microscope can resolve (that is, "see" or distinguish) objects to a size of dx, 
> which is
> related to and to the wavelength L of the gamma ray, by the expression: 
> 
> dx = L/(2sinA) (1) 
> 
> This is the resolving limit of the microscope and it is the uncertain quantity of 
> the object's
> position. 
> 
> The microscope can not see the object whose size is smaller than its resolving 
> limit, dx.
> Therefore, to be seen by the microscope, the size of the electron must be larger 
> than or equal
> to the resolving limit. 
> 
> But if the size of the electron is larger than or equal to the resolving limit dx, 
> the electron
> will not be in the range dx. Therefore, dx can not be deemed to be the uncertain 
> quantity of the
> electron's position which can be seen by the microscope, but deemed to be the 
> uncertain quantity
> of the electron's position which can not be seen by the microscope. To repeat, dx is 
> uncertainty
> in the electron's position which can not be seen by the microscope. 
> 
> To be seen by the microscope, the gamma ray must be scattered into any angle within 
> the cone of
> angle 2A, so we can measure the momentum of the electron. 
> 
> dPx is the uncertainty in the electron's momentum which can be seen by microscope. 
> 
> What relates to dx is the electron where the size is smaller than the resolving 
> limit. When the
> electron is in the range dx, it can not be seen by the microscope, so its position 
> is uncertain.
> 
> 
> What relates to dPx is the electron where the size is larger than or equal to the 
> resolving
> limit .The electron is not in the range dx, so it can be seen by the microscope and 
> its position
> is certain. 
> 
> Therefore, the electron which relates to dx and dPx respectively is not the same. 
> What we can
> see is the electron where the size is larger than or equal to the resolving limit dx 
> and has a
> certain position, dx = 0. 
> 
> Quantum mechanics does not rely on the size of the object, but on Heisenberg's 
> Gamma-Ray
> Microscope experiment. The use of the microscope must relate to the size of the 
> object. The size
> of the object which can be seen by the microscope must be larger than or equal to 
> the resolving
> limit dx of the microscope, thus the uncertain quantity of the electron's position 
> does not
> exist. The gamma ray which is diffracted by the electron can be scattered into any 
> angle within
> the cone of angle 2A, where we can measure the momentum of the electron. 
> 
> What we can see is the electron which has a certain position, dx = 0, so that in no 
> other
> position can we measure the momentum of the electron. In Quantum mechanics, the 
> momentum of the
> electron can be measured accurately when we measure the momentum of the electron 
> only,
> therefore, we have gained dPx = 0. 
> 
> And, 
> 
> dPx dx =0. (6) 
> 
> Ideal experiment 2
> 
> Single Slit Diffraction Experiment
> 
> 
> Suppose a particle moves in the Y direction originally and then passes a slit with 
> width
> dx(Please see diagram below) . The uncertain quantity of the particle's position in 
> the X
> direction is dx, and interference occurs at the back slit . According to Wave Optics 
> , the angle
> where No.1 min of interference pattern is can be calculated by following formula: 
> 
> sinA=L/2dx (1) 
> 
> and L=h/p where h is Planck's constant. (2) 
> 
> So the uncertainty principle can be obtained 
> 
> dPx dx ~ h (5) 
> 
> Re-analysis
> 
> According to Newton first law , if an external force in the X direction does not 
> affect the
> particle, it will move in a uniform straight line, ( Motion State or Static State) , 
> and the
> motion in the Y direction is unchanged .Therefore , we can learn its position in the 
> slit from
> its starting point. 
> 
> The particle can have a certain position in the slit and the uncertain quantity of 
> the position
> is dx =0. According to Newton first law , if the external force at the X direction 
> does not
> affect particle, and the original motion in the Y direction is not changed , the 
> momentum of the
> particle int the X direction will be Px=0 and the uncertain quantity of the momentum 
> will be dPx
> =0. 
> 
> This gives: 
> 
> dPx dx =0. (6) 
> 
> No experiment negates NEWTON FIRST LAW. Whether in quantum mechanics or classical 
> mechanics, it
> applies to the microcosmic world and is of the form of the Energy-Momentum 
> conservation laws. If
> an external force does not affect the particle and it does not remain static or in 
> uniform
> motion, it has disobeyed the Energy-Momentum conservation laws. Under the above 
> ideal experiment
> , it is considered that the width of the slit is the uncertain quantity of the 
> particle's
> position. But there is certainly no reason for us to consider that the particle in 
> the above
> experiment has an uncertain position, and no reason for us to consider that the 
> slit's width is
> the uncertain quantity of the particle. Therefore, the uncertainty principle, 
> 
> dPx dx ~ h (5) 
> 
> which is derived from the above experiment is unreasonable. 
> 
> Concluson
> 
> 
> From the above re-analysis , it is realized that the ideal experiment demonstration 
> for the
> uncertainty principle is untenable. Therefore, the uncertainty principle is 
> untenable. 
> 
>  
> 
> Reference:
> 1. Max Jammer. (1974) The philosophy of quantum mechanics (John wiley & sons , Inc 
> New York )
> Page 65
> 2. Ibid, Page 67
> 3. http://www.aip.org/history/heisenberg/p08b.htm 
> 
>  
> 
> Author : Gong BingXin
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