Here's the threading issue I see:

public class DatabaseManager
{
   private transient Logger logger;
   
   public Database getDatabase() {
      Logger logger = getLogger();
      logger.debug("Getting database");
      // do something here and return database
   }
   protected Logger getLogger() {
      if(logger == null)
         logger = LogFactory.getLogger(getClass());

   }
}

If two threads call getDatabase() at the same time, there is a chance that you 
could wind up allocating two loggers when only one is needed. Since the 
logger is thread-safe, we need to make getting a reference to a logger 
thread-safe, too.

There are three ways of doing it:

1) Synchronize getLogger() - This introduces synchronization overhead every 
time you need a logger.

2) Synchronize all methods that call getLogger() - Ugly.

3) Make the logger a static variable - This moves the initialization of the 
logger to when the class is loaded and thus, removes any threading issues. 
The penalty for such a refactoring is having one line of duplicate code in 
each class:

private static Logger logger = LogFactory.getLogger(Database.class.getName());

That's why I was suggesting using #3.

--Kevin
On Tuesday 19 November 2002 07:52 pm, Kevin Ross wrote:
> >Obtaining loggers might be a bad example. All I'm saying that in my
>
> experience, this kind of resource initialization scheme is better off
> being thread safe from >the start. It eliminates a whole family of bugs
> that you need to worry about down the road.
>
> Agreed, but in the case of logging, I believe you should err on the side
> of performance for the greater good, the 80%+ case.  Bothering with
> paranoid initialization (synchronization) makes everyone instance pay
> the price.
>
> Just got your next message.  I'll say it one more time, WHAT thread
> safety issues????  The logger is responsible for thread safety.  I don't
> implement synchronization when initializing or using a Logger, because
> it is unnecessary for the client to do so.  I haven't for years now, and
> I haven't had one problem in organizations with traffic from a few
> thousand hits a day, to a few million.
>
> Duplication of code is one of the fundamentally wrong things to do in OO
> programming, and I agree, therefore I stay away from it.
>
> -Kevin Ross
>
> Kevin A. Smith wrote:
> > I just thought I'd bring it up. Personally, I err on the side of
> > paranoia when I can. I don't enjoy debugging threading issues.
> >
> > If the LogFactory is recycling logger instances, then at most you pay
> > the price of one extra method call. BUT, if the LogFactory is creating
> > a new logger per call, then you're (potentially) paying the price of
> > creating an object that won't be used and an extra method call.
> >
> > Obtaining loggers might be a bad example. All I'm saying that in my
> > experience, this kind of resource initialization scheme is better off
> > being thread safe from the start. It eliminates a whole family of bugs
> > that you need to worry about down the road.
> >
> > --Kevin
> >
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:30 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: LogFactory.getLogger()
> >
> >     Threading issues?? I knew someone would bring that up.  Thread
> >     safetyness is the responsibility, gladly accepted by a logger
> >     instance, not on the classes using it.  There is NO reason why we
> >     need paranoid checking here to only get one instance, since it is
> >     the responsibility of the logging implementation to even provide
> >     the instance in the first place.  Do you really think you'll get
> >     different instances?  Probably not, worst case scenario, you call
> >     Logger.getLogger() twice and initialize your instance twice in a
> >     race condition.  Since it is of zero consequence either way, there
> >     is no reason to do it differently.  If you are particularly
> >     worried, just do:
> >
> >     private transient Logger logger = LogFactory.getLogger(getClass());
> >
> >     You CANNOT use MyClass.class and have MySubClass.class show up in
> >     the log statements, since this is static.  You must use dynamic
> >     initialization.
> >
> >     -Kevin
> >
> >     Kevin A. Smith wrote:
> >>     That doesn't look thread-safe to me. You'd need to somehow
> >>     synchronize access to getLogger() to eliminate a race-condition
> >>     on the if(logger == null) test.
> >>
> >>     While its a bit more typing, I prefer:
> >>
> >>     private static Logger logger = LogFactory.getLogger(MyClass.class);
> >>
> >>     or
> >>
> >>     private static Logger logger =
> >>     LogFactory.getLogger(MyClass.class.getName());
> >>
> >>     No threading issues and is pretty easy to read and understand.
> >>
> >>     --Kevin
> >>
> >>         -----Original Message-----
> >>         From: Kevin Ross [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>         Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 2:18 PM
> >>         To: Vladimir R. Bossicard; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >>         Subject: Re: LogFactory.getLogger()
> >>
> >>         As I mentioned in my previous message, this is a poor way to
> >>         obtain a logger, especially if you have deep inheritance
> >>         heirarchies.  Since I'm a big fan of OO programming, and my
> >>         heirarchies are especially deep, I find the static way of
> >>         obtaining a logger invalid.
> >>
> >>         Try this:
> >>
> >>         public class AbstractLoggable{
> >>
> >>             private static transient Logger logger;
> >>
> >>             protected Logger getLogger(){
> >>
> >>                 if( logger == null ){
> >>
> >>                     logger = Logger.getLogger(getClass());
> >>                 }
> >>
> >>                 return logger;
> >>             }
> >>         }
> >>
> >>         whallah! efficient OO programming with an accessor for
> >>         subclasses and the proper class name to go with it!
> >>
> >>         -Kevin Ross
> >>
> >>         Vladimir R. Bossicard wrote:
> >>>>Logger.getLogger(getClass()) at least, whether or not you use the
> >>>> string name is of no consequence.
> >>>
> >>>have you ever tried to call a non-static method within a static
> >>> reference?
> >>>
> >>>if you get this working:
> >>>
> >>>   private static Log log = LogFactory.getLog(getClass());
> >>>
> >>>I give you a high-five.
> >>>
> >>>-Vladimir
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>Vladimir R. Bossicard
> >>>www.bossicard.com

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