I find MS SMTP isn't too bad.  Certainly the features are limited as a =
server, but as a relay (which is what we use it for) it works although =
we're using it to relay to a separate MTA (powerMTA).  It needs an =
IISreset every day though in a scheduled task otherwise it chews up =
memory.

I noticed it had trouble doing direct delivery to certain domains =
(ironically MSN and Hotmail) last year however, so it's worth testing =
first before your badmail queue builds up.

David

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Alex Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 June 2003 11:03
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP address
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> Thanks,
>       I think I am going to be forced to do that as it cant be done
> with Xmail. Shame because I don't like MS SMTP, but it's a workable
> solution.
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> Alex
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> On Behalf Of David Stebbings
> Sent: 06 June 2003 10:21
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP address
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>=20
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> You could run IIS SMTP on a different port and bind that do a=20
> different
> =3D network card and set a "smart host" to forward to xmail on=20
> 127.0.0.1 =3D
> port 25
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> David
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Alex Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 05 June 2003 16:29
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP address =
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> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > SpamCop is rubbish in my opinion, unfortunately many people=20
> think its
> > great.=3D20
> >=3D20
> > The Windows server has 2 NICS with 2 different IP addresses. The
> > firewall uses NAT to give these 2 NIC's different static=20
> IP's for the
> > internet on outbound connections. If I could get windows to bind one
> > SMTP service running on port 25 to one NIC/IP and bind the=20
> other SMTP
> > service running on port 2525 to the other NIC/IP all my=20
> problems would
> > be solved.
> >=3D20
> > I suppose being able to specify what outbound port Xmail=20
> could use and
> > then using the Firewall NAT to translate all connections would also
> > work, but I am not certain that it would.
> >=3D20
> > I would love to use a second machine. I swear as techies become
> > management their intelligence decreases with each promotion.=3D20
> > Its almost
> > impossible to make them understand the need for new hardware and/or
> > software. They want to know what's wrong with the PII 233mhz=3D20
> > with 128mb
> > of ram running NT4 and why we cant install Xmail and other stuff on
> > that!
> >=3D20
> > Alex
> >=3D20
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > On Behalf Of David Stebbings
> > Sent: 05 June 2003 16:02
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP address
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> >=3D20
> > That IP *will* get blocked by spamcop when your users=20
> decide not to =3D
> =3D3D
> > unsubscribe, but tick the "report spam" option - I hate=3D20 =20
> spamcop as
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> >it's  =3D3D such a flawed system; we once had our entire =
corporate=3D20
> > email blocked =3D3D
> > because someone reported a personal email on it.
> >=3D20
> > Have you looked for an ip forwarder that can bind to=3D20
> > different NICs or =3D3D
> > do you even have the luxury of using a second machine?
> >=3D20
> > David
> >=3D20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Alex Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 05 June 2003 15:46
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP address =
=3D
> =3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Thanks,
> > >   I looked at this before. It would work in the current setup but
> in=20
> > >the future we will be setting up a new mail server with=3D3D20  =
dual=20
> > >NICS and  two SMTP servers on it. One for normal customer email=20
> > >and=3D20
> > another for
> > > the newsletters. I was hoping to keep them totally separate=3D3D20 =

> > > just in case the IP for the newsletter gets blocked by spamcop,=20
> > > which does happen even when you have double opt-in=20
> systems in place.
>=20
> > > Its only an inconvenience for a small amount of people when it=20
> > > does=3D20
> > happen but its
> > > still best avoided.
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Alex
> > >=3D3D20
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =20
> > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > On Behalf Of David Stebbings
> > > Sent: 05 June 2003 15:26
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP address=20
> > >=3D3D20 =3D3D20
> > >=3D3D20
> > > You can set the NIC priority in:
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Start
> > >    Settings
> > >       network and dial-up connections page
> > >          advanced
> > >             advanced settings
> > >=3D3D20
> > > Unless there is a need for outbound www/intranet traffic to=3D3D20
> > > go from a =3D3D3D
> > > specific IP you could set the XMail NIC to top priority
> > >=3D3D20
> > > David
> > >=3D3D20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Alex Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: 05 June 2003 15:02
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP=20
> address =3D
> =3D3D
> > =3D3D3D20
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > Arghh... Company policy to use M$ products. I personally=3D3D20
> > > would like a
> > > > mix of M$ and Linux servers but I cant unfortunately. =3D3D3D20
> > > > Alex
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] =3D20
> > > >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > On Behalf Of S=3D3D3D3DF6nke Ruempler
> > > > Sent: 05 June 2003 14:56
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: [xmail] Re: Binding XMail to a specific NIC/IP=20
> address=3D20
> > > >=3D3D3D20 =3D3D3D20
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > > This is on a Windows 2000 server.
> > > >=3D3D3D20
> > > > use linux / iptables :-)
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