> -----Message d'origine-----
> De : Mike Harrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Envoy=E9 : mardi 7 juin 2005 03:56
> =C0 : [email protected]
> Objet : [xmail] Re: senderid
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>=20
> Microsoft's Sender ID I think is pretty much dead in the=20
> water as it sits,

Agree, as Microsoft patented some (all ?) portion, and you 'could' need =
a
licence to use it.
At this time Microsoft position is not clear about a 'royalty free =
licence'
of sendid id.

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> Both are rather pointless in my opinion because they only=20
> prove where a
> message comes from.  Spammers can (and have) create SPF records for
> themselves.  Just because you can use Sender ID / SPF to prove where =
a
> message comes from, doesn't mean it's not spam.
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> -Mike
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I disagree.
Yes, a spammer can create spf records for its owned domains then send =
spam.
BUT to add spf records in a dns zone, the spammer must be able to write =
to
the zone files.
And if the spammer can, you have more changes to find and fight the =
spammer
: only persons that have write access to the zone ;-)
(you can simply stop the domain at smtp level, like=20
This limits drasticaly the number of possible spammers at domain zone =
level
!!
If a isp uses spf records (on any hosted domains) and force its =
customers to
authenticate to send mail, then if the spammer is a isp customer, you =
can
point back to it at isp level ...


Spf, sender-id, signed mails, domain keys, ... thatever is the final
preferred 'choice' on internet, will be more powerfull and more =
difficult to
bypass as more and more internet users (particulary isp's first) use it =
....
up to the time it will become naturaly 'mandatory' when installing a =
smtp
server or domain because without you can't send any mail anymore ...


Francis

Francis

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