/-- I think you may be meaning me when you say "Edlinilson"./ No, I meant Edinilson. He has the same config as Francis, has what appears to be exactly the same behavior, has verified that MS SMTP works where XMail fails, and so on.
You may be a third person seeing exactly the same behavior - your previous two emails that I read discussing greenbaycc.org and intergraonline.com seemed to be something else completely. There was another one you sent that said you were seeing an A record problem as well, but you didn't send any info about your configuration - type of system, whether or not it was with everyone (as it sounds like it is) or just Hotmail and Yahoo (which, so far, seems to be the problem that Francis and Edinilson are specifically having). Little differences like that can easily mean that it is two entirely different problems. You probably mentioned some of this in one of the previous threads, but neither my memory nor my datastore go back that far, so: What is your configuration (win 2000, Linux, what DNS, etc.)? You're problem sounds like XMail is using A records periodically when it should be using MX records - this has been verified? It happens with other domains periodically or consistently? Are Hotmail and Yahoo noticeably suspect, or just as likely to fail as others? Jeff Rob Arends wrote: >I think you may be meaning me when you say "Edlinilson". > >Re Point 6, I did mention that I have the problem with other MTAs that have >an A record for the domain. >"aanet.com.au" is an example. So it is not just yahoo/hotmail. >Re point 7, I agree that Xmail is, and should be, very RFC compliant. > >I think the question is why is Xmail using the A record when there is a good >MX record? >I have asked Davide to elaborate on his comment for FireWall interference >and I'll see what I can do on a packet trace. > >Rob :) > >-----Original Message----- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On >Behalf Of Jeff Buehler >Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2005 1:50 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get del >ivered > > >Hmmm - so far, you two are the only ones that are verified as having the >exact same problem sending to Yahoo and Hotmail - there may be others, but >we haven't verified that, is that correct? You both have the same >configuration (exactly, as Edinilson pointed out). So what do we know so >far? > >1. WIN 2000 service pack 4 >2. MS DNS from Win 2000 on a different system than XMail and presently using >SmartDNSHost (Edlinilson pointed out he seemed to have the problem even >without SmartDNSHost) >3. Neither of you is in the US (does this increase the likelihood of failed >connection attempts (?) or do these providers have systems spread globally >(?)) >4. XMail 1.21 (but Edinilson pointed out that other versions down to 1.17 >behaved the same way) >5. Francis has verified that with this configuration XMail seems to be using >A records on occasion when it should be using MX records >6. The problem is intermittent and ONLY happens with Hotmail and Yahoo >7. Edinilson has verified that the problem does not exist when using MS SMTP >to send from the same configuration, so it seems somehow related to XMail. >On this issue I have found XMail to be extremely RFC compliant (I think that >was one of Davides intentions) and it may be that MS SMTP is doing something >"extra" to overcome some known issue that we have yet to discover with >Hotmail, Yahoo, DNS, or something else. >8. Many or most others running XMail are not having this problem. It >remains to be seen if others running it on Windows 2000 do or don't. > >So here is what I would do if I were you: > >1. Try it on Windows 2003 server if you can - 2000 is starting to get a >little grey at the temples anyway. >2. Try it on Linux or *BSD (FreeBSD! FreeBSD!) > >If you still have the same problem with these configurations, then the >problem likely has to do with your infrastructure outside of the OS - some >funky problem that defies imagination, but that IT people are all quite >familiar with! You know, the kind of problem where you stand there with >your mouth hanging open and mutter: "huh?" and it never makes any sense, or >a distinction in the way it interacts with XMail that is unusual. > >Without being able to replicate the behavior, you have a very limited test >group - you two (so far!) If I could replicate the behavior, and had any >time left over after typing this email, then I would help, but at the moment >it is up to you! I don't think anyone is ignoring XMail under Windows, but >finding any possible bug without being able to easily replicate it is >extremely difficult... > >Jeff > > > >CLEMENT Francis wrote: > > > >> >> >> >> >>>-----Message d'origine----- >>>De : Edinilson J. Santos [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Envoyé : vendredi 2 septembre 2005 15:02 >>>À : [email protected] >>>Objet : [xmail] Re: messages to yahoo and or hotmail does not get >>>delivered >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>.. >>.. >>.. >> >> >> >> >>>I'm discarding DNS problems. >>> >>>Thanks >>> >>>Edinilson >>>--------------------------------------------------------- >>>ATINET-Professional Web Hosting >>>Tel Voz: (0xx11) 4412-0876 >>>http://www.atinet.com.br >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>Me too ... >> >>Francis >>- >>To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >>the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >>[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> >> >> >> >> >> > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > >- >To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in >the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
