Hello Henri, Your mail arrived almost exactly 2 days late. The headers of the mail I received:
Received: from psmtp10.wxs.nl ([195.121.247.26]:40559) by x35.xmailserver.org with [XMail 1.25 ESMTP Server] id <S218B95> for <xmail@xmailserver.org> from <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; Thu, 1 Mar 2007 13:18:13 -0500 Received: from eis (ip565e8273.direct-adsl.nl [86.94.130.115]) by psmtp10.wxs.nl (8.13.8/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l1RIhcu1012413 for <xmail@xmailserver.org>; Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:43:38 +0100 It looks like the wxs server kept the mail for those 2 days, that could be because of a very long retry delay (and your glisting), but it shouldn't. I really have no idea why the wxs.nl mailserver would be in a GMT-5 hours timezone, while it is in the Netherlands. Did you have the same problem with incomming mail? If so, it has to be a problem on the wxs.nl mailservers. You could also try the planet.nl (or even hetnet.nl) mailrelay, which should also work for KPN custommers (and may have a better retry policy??). I use Tiscali Business internet for my mailserver, they block (almost) nothing. The same goes for xs4all, but maybe this is not a good reason to switch to another ISP. Ivo ----- Original Message ----- From: "Henri van Riel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ivo Smits" <xmail@xmailserver.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 27, 2007 7:43 PM Subject: [xmail] Re: Small GLST bug maybe? > Hallo Ivo! > > Tuesday, February 27, 2007, 4:31:59 PM, you wrote: > >>> First, for incoming mail to You from the list, I think Davide can = >>> confirm if >>> xmailserver.org mail server have some waiting mail from the list for = >>> you and >>> what is the cause for this 'hold' if any. >>> >>> Second, doing an mx lookup for you domain "vriel.nl" the response is : >>> vriel.nl MX preference =3D 15, mail exchanger =3D >>> mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl >>> vriel.nl MX preference =3D 10, mail exchanger =3D mail.vriel.nl >>> >>> mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl internet address =3D 195.121.6.56 >>> mailrelay.direct-adsl.nl internet address =3D 195.121.6.12 >>> mail.vriel.nl internet address =3D 86.94.130.115 >>> >>> Trying some manual connexions to 195.121.6.12 I see a changed host name >>> = >>> in >>> the response like psmtp10.wxs.nl, psmtp15.wxs.nl, psmtp14.wxs.nl, ... = >>> same >>> thing at 195.121.6.56 AND some host names are on the two ips (if not = >>> all >>> ....). >>> >>> So you ISP first use 'load-balancing' by IP on MX host name (not a = >>> problem), >>> then use some physical 'load-balancing' on logical IP. >>> >>> And you said that your first prefered mx don't ear on port 25 (to = >>> implement >>> 'Nolisting' technic ?) >>> >> This is probably because his ISP is blocking incomming SMTP traffic >> (I'm using the same ISP...), >> Using your unavailable MX as primary, and the mail relay of the ISP >> is a technique to get the mail to your server inside the ISPs >> network. > > You're exactly right! I'm not using so-called 'nolisting' by choice, I > simply *have to* set it up like this. > >>> Can this 'cascade' of technics could cause sender xmail to enter in a = >>> sort of loop on retries in some circonstence ? >>> >>> First think to do is to return to a basic setup, at least 'reactivate' = >>> your primary mx on port 25 to see if delays go away went your server = >>> directly receive the mail. This will point out if the isp setup is >>> generated = >>> some trouble on failed primary mx connexions (volontary or not) related >>> to >>> xmail/glst sender setup. >>> >> I think he can't listen on port 25 on that IP.. :( >> For Henri: you may want to try www.rollernet.us , they can forward >> incomming mail on their MXes to your own mailserver on another port to >> bypass the ISP block, for free ofcourse :) > > I *can* listing on port 25 (I am!) but only my ISP's mailrelay server > can connect to it. How's that for monogamy! > > I took your advice Ivo and I've opened an account at rollernet. XMail > is listening on two smtp ports now (using a PREROUTING table in > iptables) and I've changed the MX records of one of my domains to > redirect mail through rollernet. Let's see what happens... If this > works I'll change all my accounts and I'll never have to use my ISP's > mailrelay server (service?) again! > > And maybe I'll give GLST another try ;-) > > Thanks everyone for all your tips and advice! Appreciated! > > -- > Henri. > > > - > To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in > the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] > For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > - To unsubscribe from this list: send the line "unsubscribe xmail" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For general help: send the line "help" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
