>-----Message d'origine-----
>De : [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de Hal Dell
>Envoy=E9 : vendredi 15 juin 2007 05:56
>=C0 : [email protected]
>Objet : [xmail] Re: eMail NOT automatically being requeued?
>
>
>=20
>Dear David Lord-
>
>> Hal Dell wrote:
>>=20
>> The problem is that I received the error code and message "451=20
>> Greylisted, please try again in 900 seconds". In the case of=20
>xMail it=20
>> did not retry to send the eMail.
>>=20
>> According to RFC2505, 4xx are Transient Negative Completion reply=20
>> (Temporary
>> Error) and should result in the mail transfer being put back=20
>on queue=20
>> again and a new attempt being made later.
>
>>> David Lord wrote:
>>>
>>> That doesn't seem right, as greylisting has been taken up by more
>providers I've seen temporary
>>> failure many times but xmail retries and either delivers or=20
>eventually
>gives up and I get an unable
>>> to deliver message. Only unable to deliver have been whilst=20
>testing and
>not to real addresses.
>>> Xmail default here was a notification after first temporary=20
>failure then
>after complete failure which
>>> might be 4 - 5 days later. I modified notification settings to =
1,6,9
>attempts but any that have hit
>>> 6, all test emails, never get through at all.  If I'm=20
>desperate I check
>what is still in spool file that
>>> xmail is still trying. One unlikely possibility is the=20
>greylisting accept
>period is too short and after
>>> jumping past it there is no possibility mail will get through.=20
>
>Thanks for the input -- I've been using xMail for quite some time and
>checked on your suggestions.
>
>I don't understand the "NotifyTryPattern" option -- is this in=20
>hours? None
>of the docs I found describe
>this in detail.
>
>The problem is that with the 451 returned error from the=20
>remote MTA -- xMail
>seems to have
>considered this an error because it immediately sent back an=20
>eMail to the
>user with
>the Subject "Error sending message...". It did NOT retry -- I=20
>double checked
>this
>by reviewing the log file. Here is what is in the LOG file=20
>(please note I
>removed the
>original from/to for privacy) :
>
>[PeekTime] 1181221418 : Thu, 7 Jun 2007 09:03:38 -0400
><<
>ErrCode   =3D -77
>ErrString =3D [RCPT TO:] not permitted by remote SMTP server
>ErrInfo   =3D 451 Greylisted, please try again in 900 seconds
>SMAIL SMTP-Send MX =3D "mail22.webcontrolcenter.com."
>SMTP =3D "smtp-x1.phl1.mgfx.com" From =3D "<dest>" To =3D "<from>" =
Failed !
>SMTP-Error =3D "451 Greylisted, please try again in 900 seconds"
>SMTP-Server =3D "mail22.webcontrolcenter.com."
>>>
>
>The error code -77 translates to ERR_SMTP_BAD_RCPT_TO" with
>the string "[RCPT TO:] not permitted by remote SMTP server" as shown.
>I don't think this is correct....
>
>I am hoping that someone can read the source code better then I can to
>help figure this out. I don't see any place in the Server.Tab=20
>to change this
>behavior. For xMail to work with other MTAs it needs to follow the RFC
>2505 and I think xMail should treat 451 as a soft error?
>
>
>Thanks,
>Hal Dell
>Managing Partner
>ePodWorks.net, Inc.
>PO Box 22
>Willow Grove, PA 19090
>+1-215-830-0662 (phone)
>+1-215-913-6894 (cell)
>+1-866-549-4652 (fax)
>Need Support send eMail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] !
>

Sure, 4xx error codes should allways be considered as they are, =
"temporary
errors", so the sending mta should retry according to it's own normal
scheduling retry process.

I noticed some other mta on the web changing some specific 4xx error to
'fatal' when received in particular places in the smtp session (after =
some
specific commands even if rfc says it's ok to send this 4xx error at =
this
place).
Could it be the case for xmail when sending ?

I didn't check the code too :)

Francis
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