Forgive my ignorance but was there ever a pre4 release?
Mike

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Subject:    Re: 0.37b12.1pre5 
Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date:       15/03/2001 17:00

>   http://x.mame.net/download/xmame-0.37b12.1pre5-MAME-ONLY.tgz

Which gives me this:

SDL: Info: Video mode set as 400 x 300, depth 16
I386 joystick interface initialization...
OSD: Warning: No joysticks found disabling joystick support
Using 16bpp video mode
Game uses 4098 colors
SDL: sysdep_display_alloc_palette(4100);
info: setting fragsize to 1024, numfrags to 2
info: fragsize = 1024, numfrags = 3
info: audiodevice /dev/dsp set to 16bit linear stereo 22050Hz

This presents the same problem that the earlier patch from Mike Diack; it
doesn't recognize the joystick at all.  Mike's patch told me "permission
denied" when it was trying to open the joystick ports, as I posted earlier. 
This one doesn't do that, as you see, but it still can't find the joystick at
all.

I've not tried the "regular" pre5 yet, but assume that it will behave in the
same manner as the "mame-only" pre5.
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