Michele,

Well said I would wait to later, but there is so much activity on the list, I 
don't want to stop the conversation!

Well, yes, I want to help, of course, I do not know the xmlblaster team very 
well now...but then again, what better way to get to know people :-)

You mentioned a project about converting the existing requirements to docbook 
format.  I admit I am ignorant about the history of xmlblaster (I guess this is 
an attempt to learn that now).
So, it seems to me that you have a specific need to convert existing 
documentation to a new format, with the old format represented by the 
requirements pages which can be viewed on xmlblaster.org, and the new format 
being in docbook format.  Is this a correct assessment?

I think then, that reference documentation is one project that the 
xmlblaster.org team has already identified, and addressed.

Then, there is another type of documentation a tutorial style, which I would 
suggest is a good idea, and I know that you probably don't have time to do 
that, given that you mentioned the docbook project has been on hold due to lack 
of time.

But I volunteer to help.  I know, anyone can write a book if they want, but it 
would be very neat to work with the xmlBlaster team...I would find that 
personally satisfying.  Anyway, coming from the publishing business, I know 
that each document has an intended audience, my personal experience with the 
documentation on xmlblaster.org, feels like it is in a reference style and 
aimed at the experienced java developer, and its somewhat disjointed, as most 
xml generated docs tend to be.

A more tutorial style 'book' (oh I don't know, even DOS for Dummies 
style)...would probably be beneficial to the project, if it existed.

Anyway, these are my beginning thoughts, which is there are really two separate 
tasks in need of addressing. 

Also, on a personal note, this would be my first attempt to help on any open 
source project, so please forgive me if I don't know exactly where to begin.

-Robert


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Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2005 10:37 AM
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Subject: Re: [xmlblaster] UserGuide was: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: 
org/xmlBlaster/client/I_Callback


My personal opinion is to start it already from the beginning in 
docbook. In fact one of the other topics on our long nice TODO list is 
the face-lifting of the xmlBlaster homepage.

This work has been started but is currently "put on hold" due to other 
priorities. We use forrest and the new requirements will be written in 
docbook (docbook 4.2). The status is such that we already have an xsl 
converting our exisiting requirements to docbook.

I was not really enjoying my first steps in docbook but I now got used 
to it and I started using it even for other documentation.

*Robert, I am really happy of hearing you are willing to contribute.* Of 
course if you have some ideas, both on the content and structure of such 
a guide and on the tecniques to be used let us know.

Salut

Michele



Heinrich G�tzger wrote:
> Robert,
> 
> On Tue, 25 Jan 2005, Dupuy, Robert wrote:
> 
> 
>>Quote:
>>
>>You can not immagine how difficult it is to
>>find somebody willing to do that job :(
>>
>>
>>--
>>
>>You know I'm using xmlblaster now, I use it as an error message bus, 
>>which is why I need to support various clients, like vbscript, vba, 
>>vb.net, c#.net,  and java (so far, those are the only clients I 
>>need)...actually, in all cases I use the xmlrpc libraries, because as 
>>you all know from my many e-mails, I cannot get the activex bridge 
>>working, and...having some problems similar to nelson with the java
>>client.   I need to put my java client inside the internal oracle jvm,
>>and it is amazingly difficult to put the whole thing in there...a 
>>slimmed down java client would be much easier to load into the 
>>internal jvm, with all its various issues...
>>
>>Anyway....as far as writing a user document goes...I wish to 
>>contribute to your project, so, I've decided to come out of the blue 
>>and volunteer to do that...I don't know, maybe it's a large project 
>>for one person, but I could get it started.
> 
> 
> Greate idea.
> 
> So how would we start this, I could think about a closed-wiki to start 
> collecting paragraphs and chapters.
> 
> Once we have some finally looking structure we could think about 
> something like docbook or so.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> cheers
> 
> Heinrich
> 
> 


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