Hi Michael:

I would like to rephrase your statement to say: "The whole point of XML and
eBusiness IS TO ... REDUCE THE BOUNDARIES BETWEEN... INDUSTRY VERTICALS....
and other global business domains".  Absolute statements such as the earlier
"REMOVE INDUSTRY VERTICALS" phrase seldom take place in a complex reality.
I take this approach because there is a tremendous amount of semantic,
syntactic, and processing knowledge contained within industry vertical
dialects, message formats, etc.

I would submit that what eBusiness generally seeks, through technologies
such as XML, is to establish an eBusiness common language (e.g., via a
translating hub or inline translator) and communications medium that allows
these successful vertical dialects to more easily communicate with each
other and the larger global economy's value-chain now opened by the Web.
The translating hub technique offers a "many to one to many" solution, while
an inline translation technique offers many "one to one" solutions.  These
are design-decision economic-factors when implementing local solutions for
linking individual value-chain segments.

"EDI to XML" issues are coming into play outside the earlier
document-centric (SGML to XML) integration efforts largely because the
syntax and processing of many business transactions in traditional EDI
(e.g., proprietary syntax/tools and VAN) are not easily integrated into the
Web's fairly new communications medium, thus retaining fairly strong
barriers between major segments of the value-chain.  There are many who
benefit from these syntax/tool and VAN barriers, and much resultant
discussion around XML in competition with traditional EDI.  We're all
witnessing more advanced relationships between these two eBusiness
techniques than just simple competition.

I personally see EDI as having both Web (XML, HTTP) and legacy (X.12/EDIFACT
and VAN) solutions.  Legacy will remain, and perhaps be repurposed, but it
will seldom play the same part or have the same portion of functionality in
new eBusiness solutions.  As I've said over the years - "electronic-data
interchange" (EDI) is more than just electronic commerce (EC), and more than
EDIFACT/X.12.  When you look at the Web (wired or wireless), it is
electronic-data interchange in its newest form, yet is a form that is
immediately accessible to every person and networked-processor in our world.

I personally wouldn't be surprised if our first contact with those outside
our world, thus expanding our worldview boundaries, takes place over the
Web.  Imagine something like a "Discovery Channel or Learning Channel" sent
to us from space by an outside civilization or species over the Wireless
Web!  ;-).  If we only had Earth-bound wire-based and atmosphere-based
communication (which are at the heart of legacy EDI and at most of our
current civilization), this new information would have no receiving
mechanism.  In this regard, think of a new eBusiness relation in a global
value-chain as an opportunity for a new level and type of interchange.


Roy





-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Thiele [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 7:52 PM
To: 'ashwani madan'; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: Usage of XML in Industry Verticals


The whole point of XML and eBusiness IS TO REMOVE INDUSTRY VERTICALS

-----Original Message-----
From: ashwani madan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2000 11:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Usage of XML in Industry Verticals


Dear All,

How do we gauge the usage of XML in the various industry verticals? Is there

a site which keeps a track of this kind of information.

regards
Ashwani

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