William,
Objectively, your email posts both on the ebXML side and on this list
appear a little political. It is my estimation that you view
"politics" as being that stuff brought to the table by industry giants and
other hangers on. In fact, the majority of displeasing political bullshit
emanates from smaller entities, not IBM, Sun, Siemens, etc. What comes
from the big guys is a kind of domination - seeing as they are the ones
who spend the most to be involved in the standards process. I haven't
seen Bob Sutor or Jon Bosak on any of the ebXML lists or this one trying
to stir things up as you seem to be doing.
Take it easy. Who _cares_ if DISA is hosting this list? Not I. Your
earlier diatribe toward D. Webber was mildly childish. Webber made a
mistake in addressing the email, why get all worked up. Webber's point
was that he didn't want the xml/edi community fragmented any further so as
to further the ebXML cause. As a founder and officer of XML Global, I can
assure you that XML Global is very commited to ebXML, and David trying to
work against ebXML would not be sanctioned by us.
Cheers!
Matt MacKenzie
CTO - XML Global
On Mon, 12 Jun 2000, William J. Kammerer wrote:
> The June 2000 Issue of XML-Journal includes "Introducing ebXML," by Bob
> Sutor, IBM's program director for XML technology and a member of the
> OASIS board of directors, and vice chair of ebXML, at
> http://www.sys-con.com/xml/archives/0102/sutor/.
>
> This is another good background article on ebXML. I got a chuckle out
> of Sutor's observation that "[ebXML's first meeting held in San Jose]
> wasn't without its share of politics. Of course, I'm apolitical - as
> long as the thing is implementable as a B2B interoperable framework, I
> couldn't care less that the ideas may have come from Sterling Commerce,
> Vitria, IBM, CommerceOne, the OMG, Group 8760, Boeing, Sun Microsystems,
> GXS, W3C, IETF, Siemens, TIE Commerce, DISA, CEN/ISSS, CMASS, UCC/EAN,
> UN/CEFACT, ASC X12, OpenTravel Alliance, First Data, Telcordia, LMI,
> CommerceNet, HP, RosettaNet, Solectron, VerticalNet, S.W.I.F.T., NACHA,
> CompTIA, Price Waterhouse, or any of the other active participants too
> numerous to list.
>
> And I am no less enthusiastic even if ideas from XML Global, David RR
> Webber's own employer, find their way into ebXML.
>
> William J. Kammerer
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