Alan, David, et. al.
(alphabetical, perhaps not SO chronological, this list's monitor as an
object, herewith)
I remark here, knowing I may be "observed" by the factions of this lists XML
newbies(, etc.); a sub-faction, perhaps, yet they being of their own profound
value to this list.
Seeking only the real value of "everything" (that actually and truely has
"it"), I herewith acknowledge that some (of various skill and experience, as
of this moment, certainly (as we were and yet again will be on various
issues/advancements, all at sometime), some will very likely benefit the many
that they influence by their yet/soon-to-come/arriving acomplishments in and
of XML utilization/propogation).
Therefore, I choose to add this comment to a complex issue that is of perhaps
even, in more than a few cases, of
maximal(sic:should_instantiate_comparative(_vs:_declarative?)) importance for
this list organization to continue to be of the rather grand role I have
deemed it to be, to have fostered such great accomplishment of such (as it
has, under such control, become; and ought remain) that, and if re-thought
to start from scratch and think to get this far w/such complexity, be tamed
by consistant application of "category theory".
This list has obviously "grown up", wonderfully faster than many hoped (as
the pre-new-millenium years were of too-sparse participation, let alone
way!_have_become_of_value contributions. KUDOS!, the mentors AND the
contributors of that great value.
Now, the matter at hand, having been alluded to above, I sense that the
"affirmation" of the AOL announcement of the "new" XML publications was of
value, tho quite limited in the context of the "bulk" of contributions (I
speak only of those of the "nature" described above, of course) was "likely"
truely "meant" as genuine and professional contribution. Yet, the "bulk" I
have mentioned above alludes, itself, to the now vital need of the "lists"
benefactors to require, as a whole/group, via the caliber of moderation it
has fortunately received, they being "professionals'", perhaps to the person,
.. "professional" submitions. It may now, which such non-linear growth of
enterprise-wide committment to embracing XML as an ultimate organizational
"underpinning", planet-wide (as a (human specie's) specific "realisation";
the WHY& HOW, when I alluded to "importance" of both XML itself, and thus,
this list, hereof).
The respondant to AOL's post was "professionally" apprised, of course. Yet,
I remember what seemed a rather parallel/similar "set" of posting of the "way
back" that now reminds me of what was wisely said then, and seems to bear
repition (in principle) here.
Pith:
Consider the "group" and the bulk now processed(read:
"read"/time-taking_of_the_"precious"_genre) (as a vital need in this global
endeavor of all practicipants; soooo likely to have profound impact on each
and every one dwelling on said palnet (sic)),
If(no ...)/When you become aware of the prospect of furthering the
success of the overall "project" of the membership, as a "whole" (which most
certainly requires the "coming up to speed of ALL, ... at every
level/sub-category of their own utility), OR especially! the newbies/futures,
realize this issue (handled, wisely as a "problem") has been solved over and
over, and simply, should have not just a "stock" response, but a list-wide
"experience" in just what "that" has been accepted to be.
Which seems to be (sorta sort of): A "genuine" review of the material,
succinctly "labeled/tokenized" in the "Subject" field sould most likely,
IMHO, (at least), convert the post to one of significant value of
contribution of the appropriate SUBset of list participants.
Further, not only those who "mentor" a "list" activity, but certainly those
who at any point in time "feel" "things" (of this list_processes) aren't
"just right", or just/right, even, especially, really should proceed to the
"Linux Documentation Project" web pages and commence a search on the term
"majordomo", which search should lead to the "How_To" of "email list"
activity and especially "monitor"ing. Therefrom, the realization that all
the above mentioned issues really have been "managed", almost as long(sic) as
there has been email access, should be noticed.
Regards,
Jim Cunningham
P.S.
Pardon the "wordiness" above, if that is how you percieve said content.
It's not just a VERY "sensitive" matter, it VERY MUCH matters.
P.P.S.
That I haven't here been favored with a review of the manuscript of Alan and
David, however, does leave me feeling a "quandary" of this overall
submission. Yet I also feel the list members have been "denied" that
review, perhaps from the "professionalism" of commitment from them (the
authors just mentioned), in their (and so too, our favor, IMHO,) unique level
of contribution here, specifically. I really doubt their publisher's budget
for their publication could't/wouldn't jump at the opportunity to "sell" this
list's members, especially, the authors familiarity with the (list's) subject
matter, as established in their contribution to this list's goals, so showing
from the git/go.
It quite appears to me that they deliver the goods to this list's management,
in the professional committment of keeping so quiet about what may be such a
complete and valuable (to, perhaps, a LARGE subset of list members, I
surmise) an achievement, for the "team" we do actually constitute via the
existence of this same list, IMHO. That being the case, their "doing their
duty" yet again, re: the AOL submission/responses, just leaves me more aware
of how much they really care and have given (despite occasional ONEROUS DUTY).
But, perhaps I have, here, had more than enough impact on their professional
and personal "space" (WELL DONE, DUDES!!, especially your most well timed
"Q.E.D"s in the formation of the success of XML embodied in this list's
grown_huge" (sorta, pretty much) QUALITY membership participation).
Too: Those who feel sure the "granularity" within XML stuff is going/gone
(way?) overboard:
(Study ENGLISH maybe! Or aptly critique it's influence on "civilization". The
EU long ago mandated that all EU gov. level (read: federal) communication
MUST be published in the membership's home country's govt. official language,
AND ENGLISH simultaneously, in EACH member country, w/o exception; look it
up, I was there; strictly speaking, I just applauded their experienced wisdom
of "efficiency")
Soon, perhaps, "we" may have achieved such (bulk!) granularity too(sic) then
provide the mandatory/required depth and breadth of "substance", as a
"language" (categorization theory achievement) of true "determinism" (read:
CLARITY; it's just becoming possible!, tho certainly not obvious or even
apparent to the new-to said theory). SUBsets of XML:OVERALL_INFLUENCE via
"proveably wise" application/implementation will handle (read:manage)
:wireless", "business", "network" etc. "protocols", (stack machine (of
course))proveably correctly, AND (ditto, the mach. ref.) proveably efficient.
Focus on the "SUB" portion of the word "subset", IMHO, WHEN "aptly
integrated" with (a soon to be "clarified" in the spirit of aformentioned
"theory", I so hope) the OMG. If you have trouble finding references to
"category theory", the majority of work is in "Physics", as it should be,
IMHO (it may be quite a "bite" to get your teeth into; you have been warned,
Also, I accentuate the concept of "provability"; principally via "stack_state
machine constructs and concepts; recursion, the quiz "item" so many settled
to let (not pass that one) pass. There's a LOT of hardware out ther,
compared to the "times" recursion was deempahsised in pre graduate studies.
And, yes, it's still the easiest way to screw up BIG!!!!, in "programming".
Yet, it is actually simple, in and of itself, despite that simplicity seeming
to cause so many instances of it being misapplied (just plain wrongly).
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