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In a message dated Wed, 6 Mar 2002 12:17:44 PM Eastern Standard Time, Betty Harvey 
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> 
> I am afraid I haven't contributed to this discussion thus far.
> 
> 
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >
> > In Peter's defense I would say he does not seem to be confused, just
> > expressing normal skepticism.
> > His statements made in the course of the discussion I can summarize as
> > following:
> > 1. There is no need for intermediate XML transformation.
> 
> This is an untrue statement.  A truer statement would be: "There
> is not need for intermediate XML transformation in some applications".
> Notice I said 'some' and not 'most'.  When you are trading information
> with multiple organizations, transformation and/or reorganization is
> almost always the case.
> 
> A good example of where intermediate transformation is useful is in
> the airplane manufacturing industry.  An airplane manufacturer must
> supply their information to both commercial and military organizations.
> Each of these organizations have their own specification for information.
> In the case of the military, each government have their own requirements.
> It is unmanageable for the manufacture to maintain their parts, technical
> documents, ordering requirements, etc. in all the various flavors for
> each one of their customers.  The smart approach is to develop their
> own XML standard to accommodate their business rules and in some cases
> to harmonize the requirements of their customers.
> 
> The result is they have many delivery options from a single data
> source.  They get a new customer with a new requirement it is just
> another transformation.
> 
> 
> > 2. OK, I agree that intermediate XML transformation is useful, but tools
> > other than XSLT can do it as well.
> 
> Omnimark is probably the program that is most used (besides XSLT).
> Omnimark works well because you can add complexity to the outgoing
> XML that is difficult or impossible to do with XSLT.  Omnimark
> also works very well with a two-way transformation, i.e., EDI to
> XML (XSLT can't do that kind of transformation).
> 
> Traditional programming languages can also be used but they weren't
> designed to be used with structured data.  However, they work a lot
> better now that you can use the DOM (or SAX).
> 
> 
> > 3. OK, I agree XSLT brings some benefits compare to other tools, but I
> > don't believe it until I see it in action.
> 
> XSLT has a lot of benefit but it is just a piece of the puzzle.
> 
> I really think a lot of the confusion of XML is that we have been given a
> jigsaw puzzle in a plastic bag.  There isn't a box with a clear picture on
> the front.  Developers have to visualize the picture looking at the
> unorganized pieces.
> 
> Betty
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