Speaking of implementation, OAG has widely been implemented at several
sites. The standard is well documented, has international support, and
approaches standardization in an object-oriented fashion (few organizations
connect the two concepts -- standardization and OO).
Emad N. Georgy 310.727.0679 - Office
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dick Brooks (E) <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Rachel Foerster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; 'The XML/EDI Group'
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:30 PM
Subject: RE: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing!
> I agree with Rachel, ebXML is the best prospect for a unbiased (vendor
> neutral), cross industry standard for business-to-business commerce,
that's
> implementable by small to large sized companies.
>
> Dick Brooks
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Rachel
> Foerster
> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2000 9:38 PM
> To: 'The XML/EDI Group'
> Subject: RE: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing!
>
>
> I recommend a visit the ebXML Initiative web site at
> http://www.ebxml.org where you can learn more bout this initiative. It's a
> very important joint effort of OASIS and UN/CEFACT. Much work is being
done
> this week in Orlando during the second meeting of the ebxml participants
> towards specifying a technical framework for the consistent and uniform
use
> of XML globally.
>
> New information regarding progress, deliverables, and so on will be posted
> to the ebXML web site regularly to keep all interested parties informed.
>
> Rachel
> ebXML Marketing, Awareness & Education Co-Project Team Lead
>
>
>
>
> Hello David,
>
> The Ziff Davis article you referred to appears more favorable
> towards MS BizTalk Server than some other sources; for example
> ZD said nobody else has an XML server except maybe Bluestone.
> ZD says the real competition for BizTalk Server is ad-hoc XML
> implementations, raising fears of incompatibility (I guess we
> all better buy MS' server, to make sure the internet works.)
>
> Anyway, the stories are both about the delay. ZD quotes MS
> execs who say they're just "taking time to do it right".
> But Bloor Research on www.silicon.com Jan 31, says
>
> "The reason (for the delay)... is the competition is already
> ahead of the game. According to recent reports, the missing
> link is the connection with business processes. This is the ability to
> link the communications required between organisations with the
> higher-level business logic, for example ordering a product or
> handling a customer request.
>
> Products from HP and Vitria, for example, already support such a
> linkage. But as yet Microsoft has no such facility. Microsoft insiders
> claim that BizTalk is changing to take this into account - but that
> could give the competition quite a lead."
>
> IMO the Biztalk Server thing makes a lot of sense on the surface but
> if anybody else besides Microsoft sold it, nobody would listen.
> We would continue the original philosophy which was waiting for agreement
> to emerge democratically and naturally.
>
> The existence of BizTalk envelope itself is a trojan. Unless you
> spend your whole life scheming and planning software, you can never
> win a chessgame with Microsoft. All you can do is not play.
>
> The accountable exchange of business docs deserves a whole new
> standard along the lines of SMTP. Look at all that crap in the
> IP "Well known ports". Can't we get our XML protocol in there?
> http://www.con.wesleyan.edu/~triemer/network/docservs.html
>
> Meanwhile give me eCo Framework, or anything else, thats free.
>
> -Todd http://www.gldialtone.com
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: ... David RR Webber
> > Sent: Monday, January 24, 2000 8:42 AM
> > To: The XML/EDI Group
> > Subject: Biztalk - Everyone loves marketing!
> >
> > http://news.excite.com/news/zd/000123/21/biztalk-all
> >
> > Great snap shot - seems actually that the technical side of
> > Microsoft is ahead of the marketing / product people -
> >
> > Question - who do we sell this to, why, and for what price, and
> > then who is going to support it with 24x7 service?
> >
> > Answering those little babies puts you a lot closer to a ship-by-date...
> >
> > DW.
>
>
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