Hello Hussein.

Thank you very much indeed for your answer. We'll try to migrate from 
APT to something else.

Regards
Daniel

Hussein Shafie wrote:
> Daniel Varela Santoalla wrote:
> 
>>We're quite happy users of XXE here (we bought several licences) and
>>also use the APT format for some documents.
>>
>>While with XXE and DocBook everything seems more or less ok, the users
>>that write APT are always complaining of the same two things:
>>
>>- The fact that starting in the first column will make your paragraph a
>>first level header. In some cases people just writes a single paragraph,
>>and they expect it to behave (in absence of further formatting) closer
>>to plain text. It would be nice if ONE STAR meant first level section,
>>TWO second level and so on.
>>
>>- The fact that you have to put [] after a bulleted list to avoid all
>>following content to become part of the last list item. I think this is
>>a nice feature that allows to write complex "items", but in the light of
>>its usage, there are many more cases where you actually want to END the
>>item than where you want to extend it. So much more sensible default
>>would be to end the item by default and use something else to extend it
>>if you have to (indentation?).
>>
>>These two things are making the whole process unintuitive and come back
>>again and again. Would it be possible to do something to fix it. Maybe
>>being able to configure the behaviour or the parser would be a good
>>thing, so that it doesn't break compatibility for everybody else...
>>
>>Please tell me your thoughts about it.
> 
> 
> I would recommend to give up using APT (Almost Plain Text -- see
> http://www.xmlmind.com/aptconvert.html) as soon as possible.
> 
> This should not be a problem given the fact that you can automatically
> convert APT to many other formats. (We did that here at Pixware/XMLmind
> a few weeks ago.)
> 
> The basic idea behind APT is that the author must use a plain text
> editor to create a *nicely* indented text with as few visible markup as
> possible. For APT, nicely indented means properly structured.
> 
> After looking at the way my coworkers used to create APT documents here
> at Pixware/XMLmind and after looking at the simple markup languages used
> by most wikis, using indentation to express structure now appears to be
> a *bad* *idea*. People are simply too lazy to properly indent a text by
> hand. They tend to naturally create very ugly, unreadable, text flows.
> 
> 
> 
> ---
> PS: From what you are describing your users don't seem to use the APT
> plug-in for XXE (in which case, XXE would have hidden all the details
> about the APT format). This is fortunate, because starting from V3.1,
> this plug-in is no longer available for download.

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