Like Manuel Collado, I don't find this behavior surprising, and I don't find
it annoying because I don't use the single window approach used in XXE's
default docbook support. Instead of having collapsing headings in the main
view I always display two views of the same document: a small one containing
a collapsing tree of headings only, which I use for navigation, and a main
one where everything is visible, which I use for editing.

Clicking on a heading in the tree view displays the same heading in the main
view. You have a permanently visible overview of the document structure in
the tree view and at the same time, don't have any problem with accidentally
editing invisible text.

The only problem with this approach is that XXE doesn't have any built-in
support for managing multiple views of the same document: I have to
explicitly open the second window after opening a document, and then resize
the windows.

If I remember correctly, the last time the "multiple view" issue was brought
up, Hussein said either that it wasn't going to get done or that it had very
low priority (if I'm wrong, please accept my apologies in advance, Hussein).
Anyway, here is a good reason for doing it: you can significantly improve
the editing experience for what I believe is XmlMind's primary market -
DocBook authors.

My "deux centimes" -

Best wishes

Kevin Flynn
Birdstep Technology AS
Oslo, Norway


-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:xmleditor-support-bounces at xmlmind.com]On Behalf Of Manuel
Collado
Sent: 13. mai 2004 11:49
To: xmleditor-support at xmlmind.com
Cc: Poster at Kinetium dot Com
Subject: Re: [XXE] 2.6 : Editing keys (e.g. delete) can operate on
invisiblecontent e.g. collapsed or css-hidden


Hussein Shafie wrote:

> Poster at Kinetium dot Com wrote:
>
>> Great updates, path expressions rock!
>>
>> Using 2.6, if I collapse an element, select the one after the collapsed
>> element, and hold the "backspace" key down, I find I am deleting content
>> which is not visible on the screen (collapsed, in this case).
>>
>> Similarly, if I use a style sheet in which some elements are not visible
>> (using css display: none), it is also possible to edit content that is
>> not
>> visible.
>>
>> Should this be happening? It was unexpected behavior to me.
>
>
> Yes, it is annoyingly suprising for XXE users. We have not yet found a
> way to remove this misfeature (that is, this is not simply a bug which
> needs to be fixed).

This is not really surprising for me, neither annoying. Perhaps this is
a case in which working with both tree and styled views really help.

Regards,
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