Charles Palmer wrote:
> Thanks for your reply. I've been trying your tutorial (successfully) and 
> then tried to move it across to Forrest, which is what I am using, with 
> XMLMind as an editor. I am copying you the email I have sent to the 
> Forrest email group - so that you can see my problems and to see if you 
> have any suggestions.
>  
> Even if the Forrest people can suggest how to get the XInclude mechanism 
> working with the HTML files, I still have to try this with the Forrest 
> native document type. Do you think that will be any different?

I'm sorry. I really don't know anything about the Forrest native 
document type.

Unless you or somebody else take the time to write a decent XXE 
configuration for Forrest (95% of the effort will be on the CSS style 
sheet), I'm affraid you'll find XXE unusable with the Forrest native 
document type.




> Incidentally, you write: "This is a limitation of XXE  we do not plan to 
> remove. (We thought this limitation was well documented!)" - well maybe 
> it is clear here, but if you look in the Help tab at the top of the 
> XMLMind program there is some text there that talks about "managed 
> entities", which I now see are probably not the same thing as "managed 
> <!ENTITIES>". So maybe it is not entirely clear, and maybe it would be 
> good if the documentation embedded in the program was identical to the 
> documentation on your website - then people could just look in the one 
> place for help.

To our knowledge the documentation on your website is identical to the 
documentation embedded in the program.

In a nutshell, XXE has very limited support for external entities. That 
is, what follows works fine with XXE:

---
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.2//EN"
"http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd"; [
<!ENTITY fileMenu SYSTEM "fileMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY selectMenu SYSTEM "selectMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY editMenu SYSTEM "editMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY searchMenu SYSTEM "searchMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY styleMenu SYSTEM "styleMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY toolsMenu SYSTEM "toolsMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY xmlMenu SYSTEM "xmlMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY optionsMenu SYSTEM "optionsMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY windowMenu SYSTEM "windowMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY helpMenu SYSTEM "helpMenu.xml">
<!ENTITY toolBar SYSTEM "toolBar.xml">
<!ENTITY nodePath SYSTEM "nodePath.xml">
<!ENTITY selectToolBar SYSTEM "selectToolBar.xml">
<!ENTITY editAttributeTool SYSTEM "editAttributeTool.xml">
<!ENTITY checkValidityTool SYSTEM "checkValidityTool.xml">
<!ENTITY checkSpellingTool SYSTEM "checkSpellingTool.xml">
<!ENTITY searchReplaceTool SYSTEM "searchReplaceTool.xml">
<!ENTITY characterTool SYSTEM "characterTool.xml">
<!ENTITY editTool SYSTEM "editTool.xml">
<!ENTITY clipboardContent SYSTEM "clipboardContent.xml">
<!ENTITY validityState SYSTEM "validityState.xml">
<!ENTITY optionsDialog SYSTEM "optionsDialog.xml">
<!ENTITY preferredPrefixDialog SYSTEM "preferredPrefixDialog.xml">
<!ENTITY urlChooserDialog SYSTEM "urlChooserDialog.xml">
<!ENTITY resourcesDialog SYSTEM "resourcesDialog.xml">
]>
<article>
   <articleinfo>
     <title>XMLmind XML Editor - Online Help</title>

     <author>
       <firstname>Hussein</firstname>

       <surname>Shafie</surname>

       <affiliation>
         <orgname>Pixware</orgname>

         <address>Immeuble Capricorne,
<street>23 rue Colbert</street>,
<postcode>78180</postcode> <city>Montigny Le Bretonneux</city>,
<country>France</country>,
Phone: <phone>+33 (0)1 30 60 07 00</phone>,
Fax: <fax>+33 (0)1 30 96 05 23</fax>,
Web: <otheraddr><ulink 
url="http://www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor";>www.xmlmind.com/xmleditor</ulink></otheraddr>
Email: <email>xmleditor-support at xmlmind.com</email></address>
       </affiliation>
     </author>

     <pubdate>May 10, 2004</pubdate>

     <abstract>
       <para>This online help is essentially the reference manual of 
XMLmind XML
       Editor (XXE for short) menus, tool bars and dialog boxes.</para>
     </abstract>
   </articleinfo>

   <section id="menuBar">
     <title>Menus</title>

     &fileMenu;

     &selectMenu;

     &editMenu;

     &searchMenu;

     &styleMenu;

     &toolsMenu;

     &xmlMenu;

     &optionsMenu;

     &windowMenu;

     &helpMenu;
   </section>

   &toolBar;

   <section id="nodeBar">
     <title>Node path/node selection bar</title>

     &nodePath;

     &selectToolBar;
   </section>

   <section id="tools">
     <title>Tools</title>

     &editAttributeTool;

     &checkValidityTool;

     &checkSpellingTool;

     &searchReplaceTool;

     &characterTool;

     &editTool;
   </section>

   <section id="statusBar">
     <title>Status bar</title>

     <tip>
       <para>Right-clicking on the message area of the status displays the
       history of messages displayed there. Last displayed message is 
the first
       in the list.</para>
     </tip>

     &clipboardContent;

     &validityState;
   </section>

   <section id="dialogBoxes">
     <title>Dialog boxes</title>

     &optionsDialog;

     &preferredPrefixDialog;

     &urlChooserDialog;

     &resourcesDialog;
   </section>
</article>
---

because all document modules just contain a single element and nothing 
else (really *nothing* else).

Example, helpMenu.xml. Notice no <!DOCTYPE>, no comment or PI, just 
<section>:

---
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<section id="help_menu">
   <title>Help menu</title>

   <variablelist>
     <varlistentry id="help">
       <term><guimenuitem>Help</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays the help browser.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="contextualHelp">
       <term><guimenuitem>Contextual Help...</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>To get help about a specific GUI component of XXE, 
execute this
         command (the cursor changes signaling that you are now in 
contextual
         help mode) and then click on that component.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="showContentModel">
       <term><guimenu<?xml version="1.0" encoding="ISO-8859-1"?>
<section id="help_menu">
   <title>Help menu</title>

   <variablelist>
     <varlistentry id="help">
       <term><guimenuitem>Help</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays the help browser.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="contextualHelp">
       <term><guimenuitem>Contextual Help...</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>To get help about a specific GUI component of XXE, 
execute this
         command (the cursor changes signaling that you are now in 
contextual
         help mode) and then click on that component.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="showContentModel">
       <term><guimenuitem>Show Content Model</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Opens a window containing an hypertext reference manual 
listing
         all elements and attributes specified in the XML schema or DTD 
of the
         document being edited.</para>

         <para>This manual, which is organized like &#34;<citetitle>DocBook:
         The Definitive Guide</citetitle>&#34; by Norman Walsh and al., is
         intended to help content authors understand the XML schema or 
DTD of
         the document being edited.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="listBindings">
       <term><guimenuitem>Mouse and Key Bindings</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays a dialog box containing the mouse and key
         <firstterm>bindings</firstterm> (that is, the mouse or keyboard 
user
         interaction used to trigger a command) that can be used in current
         view.</para>

         <note>
           <para>A XXE configuration file, which is a customization of 
XXE for
           a specific XML application, can add new commands and/or new mouse
           and keys bindings to the default set.</para>

           <para>Therefore the information displayed in this dialog box 
depends
           on the XML application associated to current view (the last 
field,
           if any, of the title bar of the view).</para>
         </note>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="listPlugins">
       <term><guimenuitem>Plug-ins</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays a dialog box containing information about all 
plug-ins
         currently loaded into XXE.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="about">
       <term><guimenuitem>About XMLmind XML Editor</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays the customary <guilabel>About</guilabel> dialog 
box.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>
   </variablelist>
</section>item>Show Content Model</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Opens a window containing an hypertext reference manual 
listing
         all elements and attributes specified in the XML schema or DTD 
of the
         document being edited.</para>

         <para>This manual, which is organized like &#34;<citetitle>DocBook:
         The Definitive Guide</citetitle>&#34; by Norman Walsh and al., is
         intended to help content authors understand the XML schema or 
DTD of
         the document being edited.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="listBindings">
       <term><guimenuitem>Mouse and Key Bindings</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays a dialog box containing the mouse and key
         <firstterm>bindings</firstterm> (that is, the mouse or keyboard 
user
         interaction used to trigger a command) that can be used in current
         view.</para>

         <note>
           <para>A XXE configuration file, which is a customization of 
XXE for
           a specific XML application, can add new commands and/or new mouse
           and keys bindings to the default set.</para>

           <para>Therefore the information displayed in this dialog box 
depends
           on the XML application associated to current view (the last 
field,
           if any, of the title bar of the view).</para>
         </note>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="listPlugins">
       <term><guimenuitem>Plug-ins</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays a dialog box containing information about all 
plug-ins
         currently loaded into XXE.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>

     <varlistentry id="about">
       <term><guimenuitem>About XMLmind XML Editor</guimenuitem></term>

       <listitem>
         <para>Displays the customary <guilabel>About</guilabel> dialog 
box.</para>
       </listitem>
     </varlistentry>
   </variablelist>
</section>
---

This type of external entity references are said to be ''managed'' by 
XXE. *Any* other type of entity references, internal or external, are 
just expanded by XXE.

Notes:

* Character entities are handled very differently.

* Non-parsed entities and notations, which are not related to the above 
parsed  entities, are completly ignored by XXE


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