Sorry, our minds did not meet...
It is not on a layout mode that I wanted to say, but, as in an earlier 
post in this list, on an outline view/mode. My apologies.
Like MS Word Outline mode, I think that xxe could be a lot more usefull 
with this issue.
Here is the post, and your answer, Shafie.

----begin post
Michel Kergoat wrote:

>> 
>> I enjoy xxe as a docbook documents writer. I found it really usefull and
>> the new 2.1 is pretty good.
>> 
>> But as a writer, I'll enjoy it really more if I could work on the
>> outline view of the document.
>> 
>> That is : move sections up & down (I could do this with cut & paste) but
>> also - and almost - move sections across levels (I do not find how I
>> could do that if I could).
>> This means that a sect1 becomes a sect2, and the enclosed sect2 becomes
>> a sect3 and so on.
>> All of these with shortcut of course but better with drag'n drop...
>> 
>> Ideally, I'd like to work as with MS Word's outline view which I feel
>> simply genious.
>> 
>> I understood reading the list that maybe I could customize. Could
>> someone put me on this way ? I do not know very much about XSL/CCS, I
>> feel these so obvious. Really harder than procedural languages like C or sh.
>> 
>> Remember that Outline is one of the Linux Documentation Project's advice
>> for the writers.
>  
>

> It is possible to implement a nice outline view using a specific CSS
> with embedded buttons and a docbook specific command (written in Java or
> in a scripting language -- do not try to do this with a macro command).

> Is it hard to do so? Well, everything needed to do so is documented but
> the learning curve is probably too steep for a power user.

> We are too busy to implement this in the short term but we've added this
> feature to the wish list. (It is very likely that it will be implemented
> because it is easy and fun to do it.)
----end post

So my question is : when could you, if ever, plan to work on this ?

Best regards
Michel:-)

Hussein Shafie a ?crit:

> Michel Kergoat:
>
>> Now, the "killer" question : we are several asking for a "layout 
>> mode", that is, an easy and productive way to work at the layout of a 
>> (docbook) document. As I did mail this list, you seems to find this 
>> interesting and a good / reasonable wish. What is it on, if something 
>> is, whith this issue? 
>
>
> The easiest way to do exactly what you want is to create your own DTD 
> and then, to automatically convert the document instances to DocBook 
> using a XSLT style sheet.
>
>
>
> Denis Bradford wrote:
>
>> It's not an XXE bug, it's a feature of the docbook design. I forget all
>> the reasons for it, but it was definitely a deliberate decision, not an
>> accident. I believe that the issue is discussed at length in the docbook
>> mail archive (http://lists.oasis-open.org/archives/docbook/ ), if you
>> want to check it out for yourself.
>>
>> A more technical person can correct me, but I suspect that inserting
>> sections in any old place complicates the programming side of things
>> (like XSL style sheets) a lot. And programmability is the point of XML,
>> I think. Speaking as a tech writer who has lived with docbook for
>> several years), it has not proved to be a very severe restriction and
>> may even have improved my writing :-). 
>
>
> From a technical point of view, XXE, which makes no difference between 
> a para and a section (both are blocks), would be happy to insert a 
> section between 2 paras *if this was allowed by the DTD*.
>
>
>
>
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