I would like to have a visible cursor by default. The ugly root weave can stay hidden -- but I kinda like it, since it looks really bad on crufty displays.
Oh, and I think the bike shed needs to be painted a slightly darker shade of black (-BR ?). Pat --- On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:46 AM, Samuel Thibault <[email protected]> wrote: > Dave Airlie, le Thu 21 Oct 2010 12:10:14 +1000, a écrit : >> On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 9:23 AM, Samuel Thibault >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > Not having a visible cursor by default poses problems with a lot of users: >> > when >> > they are faced with a completely dark screen without even a moving mouse, >> > they >> > think their machine is completely hung, while it could just be that X >> > clients >> > can't connect or are not starting for some reason. >> >> NAK on the this needs discussion grounds. >> >> Seems like this was the whole point of the retro stuff in the first >> place, to not display a cursor and not draw a background. > > Well, I can understand that not drawing a background is nicer looking. > But not showing a cursor really apparently really is a pain for the > user. I _keep_ getting user feedback about "my X server is hung", and > Xorg.0.log posts which of course don't contain fatal error messages, > frustrated users etc. While the problem often simply is that the user > doesn't have xauth, or such... See > > https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=26798 > > Really, not having a cursor poses a real problem: users assuming wrong > things (and I wouldn't even dream a user wondering "what if I passed > that -retro thing to get back into the 1988 to check whether it's really > the X server that hangs", it just won't ever happen). > > While having a cross-cursor for a few seconds... Is it really _so_ ugly > that we want to get those bug reports? Frankly enough, I think I'll be > thick-headed enough to report on this thread for each user report having > the same issue as mentioned above, just like I did 5 times already > since February (and I'm just talking about Hurd user reports, i.e. an > extremely small part of the Xorg users). > > Samuel > _______________________________________________ > [email protected]: X.Org development > Archives: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel > Info: http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel > _______________________________________________ [email protected]: X.Org development Archives: http://lists.x.org/archives/xorg-devel Info: http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/xorg-devel
