On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Leon Smith wrote:

> Err... sorry , I accidentally sent the last email before I was finished...
> 
> I have a dual monitor system, and the currently available multiheaded
> options do not meet my needs very well. I normally have a lot of
> applications running, and thus I tend to make heavy use of virtual
> workspaces.  Unfortunately, it is difficult to use workspaces as effectively 
> as I would like.  For the sake of discussion, let's call what I want 
> "separate, independent workspaces".  Let me elaborate.
> 
> If one wants to display something on a second monitor under Xinerama, then
> one simply draws something that is off the edge of the first.   Xinerama
> makes two or more monitors look like one bigger monitor.   However, the
> tendancy is that a window manager simply treats this as one big workspace.
> They are not separate workspaces.

   This is a window manager issue.

> 
> The other option is to treat each monitor as a different display. (i.e.
> localhost:0.0 and localhost:0.1)  However, most applications don't have the
> ability to migrate between different X displays.  This ties each
> application to a specific monitor, and doesn't allow me to display a
> workspace that is associated with display :0.0 on display :0.1 and vice
> versa.  This is very artificial and constantly gets in my way.  For
> example, what if I want to view two applications associated with the same
> monitor at the same time?
> 
> This, in turn, ties each workspace to a particular monitor.   I want each
> workspace to be independant of any monitor.   In a sense, this creates two
> "pools" of workspaces, one for each monitor.  I want two monitors to share
> the same "pool" of workspaces.
> 
> Now, it is practically impossible to write window manager that implements
> separate, independant workspaces without the using the Xinerama extensions.
> However, to implent this idea using the Xinerama extensions is widely
> recognized as very difficult.

    Why is that?

> 
> Worse, to do this robustly is believed by some (including me) to be nearly
> impossible under Xinerama.  Xinerama introduces a whole host of
> compilcations, not least of which is that widows have a tendancy to pop up
> on mulitple monitors.   Despite Enlightenment's efforts in this regard, it
> has been my experience that this feature still doesn't work very well.  
> Besides, I do not much care for Enlightenment.

   These are window manager issues not server issues.


                        Mark.


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