On Sat, 20 Oct 2001, Billy Biggs wrote:

>   Thanks to the list (specifically Mark and Matt) for all your help
> lately.  These are the current issues we have with Xv.  I'm curious as
> to
> what coding we can help with, and what is actively being worked on.
> 
> 1) Performance is horrible.  All drivers should be using DMA to transfer
>    images from system memory to video memory.  Apparently this is being
>    done for X 4.2.  Which drivers are fixed and which still need work?
> 
>    Apparently, some chips can read frames right out of system memory
>    without copying to video memory at all (rumor says this is true for
>    i810).  Can we improve Xv performance in these cases?
> 
> 2) For interlacing, I like the idea of an XV_FRAME_TYPE attribute:
>    0 == frame, 1 == top field, 2 == bottom field.  I'm worried about
>    the DRI API possibly not supporting stride on texture blits (is
>    this true?) and I'm not sure how to handle this for DMA transfers.
> 
> 3) Xv should be used to expose hardware RGB scaling everywhere, also
>    with DMA transfers.  What cards still need fixing?
> 
> 4) There is no distinction between rendering and display, and
>    applications have no access to the buffering of frames in video
>    memory.  In order to redraw the screen the entire image must be
>    re-blit.  Consider a user moving the video output window when
>    displaying a static image.  Also we have no way to copy an image to
>    video memory and then show it later, which could greatly increase
>    display timing accuracy for high-quality output.  A separation, like
>    what XvMC has, would allow for better quality, much less memory
>    bandwidth during stills, paused video, and window movement, and
>    multi-buffering controlled by the application.
> 
>    Should we deprecate Xv and move to an XvMC-style API, or would there
>    be an easy way to add this functionality to Xv?
> 
>    It seems to me that Xv maybe should act more like normal XImages.
>    Why can't the video automatically be respositioned when the window is
>    positioned?
> 
> 5) Outstanding bugs that I'm aware of in Xv drivers:
>    - The savage Xv driver fails in 24bpp mode.  Is anyone fixing this?
>    - The i810 driver pukes some bad frames after the size of the input
>      images changes. (like switch from 720x480 to 704x480 for when
>      DVD-menus differ from the content).  Is this a bug?
> 
> 6) Drivers claim to support modes that the hardware can't actually
>    optimize.  An example is the Savage which claims to support YV12
>    although it only supports YUY2.
> 
> 6) libXv.a is only distributed as a non-PIC .a.
> 
>   This list taken from discussions on #ogle and #gstreamer on
> irc.openprojects.net.
> 
> 

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