On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Mark Vojkovich wrote:
 :: On Mon, 1 Jul 2002, Dean S. Messing  wrote:
<snip>
 :: > 1: Do I need to do anything special to enable the xinerama extension
 :: >    mentioned in the Nvidia Readme?  I ask because KDE seems
 :: >    to like to put windows up right across the boundary between the
 :: >    two monitors and the Readme indicates that the xinerama extension
 :: >    should prevent this.  What am I missing.
 ::
 ::    The Xinerama extension does not prevent this.  The Xinerama
 :: extension gives the window manager a mechanism to prevent this.
 :: Window managers must specifically support this.  Some do, some don't.
 :: I don't know about KDE.  Some window managers try to do this and
 :: are broken and have behavior worse than if they did nothing at all
 :: so we have an option to disable advertising of the Xinerama extension.

This is a pain.
Is there an easy way to find out what KDE 2.2.2 is capable of?
Anyone in the forum  running KDE 2.2.2 with TwinView on a single card?
Will  an upgrade to KDE 3 fix things?
Will going to "straight xinerama" be better?

 :: 
 :: > 
 :: > 2: When I change modes to the 2nd mode KDE keeps the virtual desktop
 :: >    size of the first metamode.  The FP shuts off alright but
 :: >    the CRT has a 2800x1200 virtual desktop.  How can I make the
 :: >    virtual desktop snap to the CRT resolution when in the second mode?
 :: 
 ::     The root window can never change size throughout the X session,
 :: Even with a single head, there is no mechanism in the X-window system
 :: to resize the desktop.  XFree86 hotkeys for mode switching merely
 :: change the size of the viewport, not the root window.
 :: 
 ::     There is that panning domain stuff in TwinView that might at
 :: least let you prevent the one head from panning outside of its
 :: square of the screen. 

Yes, I'll try this.  But, unfortunately it does not solve the basic
problem.  So for example, when I start ImageMagick `display' with
an image that's bigger than my 1600x1200 CRT display, and I'm running
with the FP off, I should get a "panning window" generated by `display'
to let me pan around the displayed image.  But I don't because it
still thinks my desktop is 2800x1200.  Also when the screensaver
comes up it is no longer centered in one display but away off to the right.

I'll try playing with panning and offset as you suggest and see what
happens.

Maybe I can try running _two_ xservers (instead of two modes)
and hot_key between them?
Another pain.

This two display stuff isn't all it's cracked up to be :-)

 :: > 
 :: > 3: This XF86Config file I've cobbled together comes from
 :: >    an older single-head one.  So following the stuff above there's
 :: >    all the "Display" subsections I had before.  Is this now cruft that
 :: >    I can remove?  What about DefaultColorDepth?
 :: > 
 :: 
 ::    I thought DefaultColorDepth was a XFree86 3.x keyword?  There
 :: is a DefaultDepth in 4.x.
 :: 
 :: 
 ::                                 Mark.

Yes, I think I grabbed this from an older XF86Config for 3.3.6.
As I understand it, the binary NVidia driver runs at 24 by default
so I'm seeing 24 bpp and thinking it's due to the  DefaultColorDepth.

Any general solutions to my questions will be _greatly_ appreciated.

Dean
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