Hi, The patch for Radoen 9000, M9 and Radeon 9700 2D support has been submitted and will be in XFree CVS tree in the near future. 9000 and 8500 don't share the same IDs, that's for sure. Meanwhile specifying ChipID in the config file with a 8500 or 7500 ID is a correct solution for getting 9000 or M9 to work with the existing X4.2xx Radoen dirver (2D part only, note this won't work with 9700). If you specify ChipID with a 8500 ID (0x4242 for example), it will only work with the single head config. If you want both heads to work correctly with a dual-head/Xinerama setup, use a 7500 (0x5157) or a VE ID (0x5159 for example). Although 9000 uses the same 3D core as used in 8500, its 2D features (dual-head, tvout, etc) actually follow 7500. When you use a 7500 or VE ID, make sure to disable DRI. Although the 2D part of radeon DRI support is likely to work fine with radeon.o kernel driver on a 9000 (this is because the 2D DRI support only uses DMA to send 2D commands, doesn't even use the microcode for 2D commands), any ogl app (like ogl screen savers) will lock whole thing up if DRI is enabled. The failure experienced by Arkadiusz in http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/xpert/2002-September/020561.html is probably caused by the bug with DDA rountines in the old X4.20 driver, this has been discussed before and has been fixed in XFree CVS tree.
Hope this helps Hui > > I recently recieved a Radeon 9000pro "mac" edition and hacked it to work > by just adding the PCI id as stated in other posts (but in the driver this > time), this cards ID is 0x4966. Is it true that there are 9000's with > 8500 ID's? > > > ani > > > On Wed, 11 Sep 2002, Alexander Stohr wrote: > > > Hello, > > > > > > > What 0x4243 is supposed to mean? > > > > > > > > It's a pci id of AIW Radeon 8500 DV. > > > So another unsupported one. > > > > No, according to the PCI ID database on www.yourvote.com > > 0x4243 the piggy back firewire port of the 8500 DV. > > This is indeed not a grafics chip at all. > > Who the heck has come up with that bogus ID? > > > > In the PCI device listing you will clearly find > > the correct ID of this ATI Radeon 9000 card: 0x4966 > > > > Charl is finally most right with his proposal: > > ChipId 0x4966 > > > > (i dont use that because when i am developing > > i am always having a full X11 tree handy and > > then i just add the IDs directly into my code, > > a few seconds recompile of the ddx driver module > > and its done...) > > > > you had two IDs in your specific case, thats why: > > only primary function 0 does identify the chip, > > any further device functions only do have different IDs > > if they do provide something different with the same silicon, > > a thing that is often seen on intel's bus bridges. > > > > > > Perhaps it has not made into linux kernel yet. > > > kernel? support in kernel is required for DRI. > > > I'm trying to get XFree working even without DRI. > > > > The write meant something different - the coding of DRI > > partially is kernel based and uses the constant defines > > from linux kernel header files (which do originate from > > the yourvote.com site). As the Radeon 9000 is a pretty > > new board the Linux kernel is possibly just updating this, > > but the DRI project hasnt identified this addition. > > Thats a development thing users should not care to much. > > > > For users there is just the method of browsing their pci > > configuration and add the yet not known "compatible" devices > > to their config file by the "ChipID" statement. > > > > > > Also try this: > > > > Option "ChipId" "0x4243" > > > XFree drivers do not support 0x4243. It will not work. > > > > that boy was hoaxing with his suggestion or using the FAQ template? > > > > > > If still does not work try ati.2 drivers from http://gatos.sf.net/ > > > > gatos drivers also don't support 0x4243 (don't support my radeon, too) > > > > must be the same boy as above > > > > > btw. how PCI IDs are managed? Vendor (like ATI) gets some ID space > > > (as in with MAC on network cards) and does whathever it wants in > > > that assigned space? Or maybe vendor is required to register > > > each product in some global database? > > > > There is an organsiation called PCI Special Interests Group (www.pcisig.com) > > that does work on specs. Its a "big business club". And it registers the > > misc companys with a vendor ID. The device IDs are in the duty of the > > respective vendors. Each of these IDs is 16 bits wide. > > If you use up 50 device IDs a year, you will have mor than 1000 years > > of time until you have to register for a secondary vendor ID. > > > > > ps. response from ati support sucks, automated message ;/ > > > > hmm. that means customer support got your mail. ;-) > > anyways X11-DRI drivers are supported by their respective vendors. > > > > -Alex. > > > > _______________________________________________ > Xpert mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert > _______________________________________________ Xpert mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://XFree86.Org/mailman/listinfo/xpert
