Hi,
after following this list for a couple of weeks I have gotten nowhere 
trying to acheive decent acceleration for my ATI Radeon QL (8500 
128mb), and it doesn't seem many others have, either.
This is Status Quo:

*  The resident XF86 'ati' driver works, gives a display etc (I have a 
perfectly working dual-head setup, if anyone is interested: a note 
about this in the postscript), but I have yet to acheive anything but 
software 3d and choppy window movement. Even xscreensaver runs 
super-slow! What gives? I did have trouble loading glx earlier, but I 
traced this problem to my enabling of the radeon framebuffer device in 
the kernel. Now glx loads, but performance is still crap.

*  Video/dvd playback with mplayer and xine is good, but only with the 
rootmode direct-to-card vidix extention. Xv modes load, but give 
nothing, sometimes distorted greens, sometimes a blue band, sometimes a 
very thin sliver of the playing video is visible in the window. 
*  ATI has released it's FireGl200 workstation drivers for the radeon, 
as these apparently have the same chipset. In fact, when getting 
drivers for linux from the ati support site, for any radeon (including, 
specifically, my QL) you will be directed to these firegl drivers. They 
come only as rpms. I have seen reports of people with different radeon 
cards (ve etc) getting these drivers to work, and being content. Not I. 
When I try to load these drivers I get a "card unsupported". I should 
be complaining to ATI, except linux, and the firegl driver for the 
radon, is unsupported.

*  The GATOS project and their ati.2 driver: I have for some reason not 
gotten anywhere with this driver. If I install it, X just plain refuses 
to load. No log, no nothing except a 'signal 11', and an occational 
curruption of my XF86Config-4, if I'm running as root. I recently 
posted to the gatos-devel forum, and it's too early to expect a reply.

*  Hard resets: Over the past weeks I've installed the XF86 4.2.0 
binaries, updated to 4.2.1, used woody deb packages (4.1.x), installed 
gatos drivers etc etc and I am no longer sure what cominations of which 
results in the computer _hard resetting_ when I start x |not in root|. 
This has usually happened after either updating to 4.2.1 or using gatos 
ati.2. I will try to experiment further, although I don't like it at 
all- my harddrive filesystems don't like it at all. Debian sid just 
updated their packages to 4.2.1-1 and things seem to be working.

*  The framebuffer and Xfb => I don't know where to start with this 
one, or whether it will help me at all. My past experience with 
framebuffer drivers (which is to say all I have done is compile them 
into the kernel to get the penguin at startup), both with nvidia and 
ati cards indicates they do not mix with anything else. If anyone could 
point me in the right direction, or tell me what, if anything, I can 
expect to acheive with fbdev.

Help, comments, links, drivers, puns and crackpot ideas will be greatly 
appreciated

-Kacper Wysocki

PS: I have seen a number of people post to the forum concerning 
problems setting up the dual-output radeon for dual-headedness. I did 
post replies to those I felt I could help- I invite those I missed to 
repost, and I'll see what I can do.
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