Hi Yikan,

I think using Monte Carlo (in the torsion angle randomization) is appropriate.


Good luck,


Guillermo





________________________________
From: ZhangYikan <[email protected]>
Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 6:36 PM
To: Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E]; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational sampling

hell Guillermo,
By the way, although I have known that the comformational sampling problem has 
been an untrival problem util now; how can I make sure that I have sampled 
almost all possible conformations of this RNA?

Yikan
Ph. D candidate
TsingHua University
School of life Sciences
Beijing, China
tel:010-62773783



> 在 2017年12月12日,上午7:25,ZhangYikan <[email protected]> 写道:
>
> hello Guillermo,
> Thank you for your scripts, I have tried it. I found that there are still 
> some wrong topology structures and clahes(some overlaps):1) I will try to fix 
> the repel parameter and rerun the script;
> 2) in the outputs of the previous zp_0-3.py, I found the terms of “impr” 
> seems unusual(in the .viols), did you have some tools to analysis this energy 
> term ?
>
> Thank you!
> Best,
>
> Yikan
> Ph. D candidate
> TsingHua University
> School of life Sciences
> Beijing, China
> tel:010-62773783
>
>
>
>> 在 2017年12月12日,上午2:00,Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E] 
>> <[email protected]> 写道:
>>
>> Hi Yikan,
>>
>> I notice that your script seems to be more complicated than it has to be.  
>> I'm not sure this will solve your problem, but I'm attaching a simpler 
>> script based on eginput/rna/fold.py.   It's basically the script used to 
>> fold an RNA molecule from an extended conformation (described in the paper I 
>> mentioned before).  I modified it so that you load your input pdb structure 
>> and define the different rigid bodies (look for the lines with an inline 
>> comment "# COMPLETE !", where you must enter the right information).  Then, 
>> it does torsion angle dynamics using the remaining torsional degrees of 
>> freedom (i.e., at the linker(s)).
>>
>> I commented all the experimental restraints.  If you want to have the radius 
>> of gyration term (which appears in your script), you can introduce it 
>> yourself.  Also, you might want to use it as a starting point for more 
>> complicated stuff, like "breaking" the linkers and randomizing the position 
>> of the domains.
>>
>> A suggestion to try to avoid (and detect) knotted structures is to increase 
>> the atomic radii (see the 'repel' argument in initRepel).
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Guillermo
>>
>> From: ZhangYikan <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2017 10:43 AM
>> To: Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E]; [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational sampling
>>
>> hello Guillermo,
>>
>> I want these domains move (as rigid body)randomly and freely to sample all 
>> possible conformations of the RNA.
>>
>> Yikan
>> Ph. D candidate
>> TsingHua University
>> School of life Sciences
>> Beijing, China
>> tel:010-62773783
>>
>>
>>
>>> 在 2017年12月11日,下午11:27,Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E] 
>>> <[email protected]> 写道:
>>>
>>> Hi Yikan,
>>>
>>> Can you tell me what you are trying to do?
>>>
>>> Best,
>>>
>>> Guillermo
>>>
>>>
>>> From: ZhangYikan <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 6:56 PM
>>> To: Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E]; [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational 
>>> sampling
>>>
>>> hi Guillermo,
>>> yes, i have received your last mails. And the attachment is my scripts.
>>>
>>>
>>> Yikan
>>> Ph. D candidate
>>> TsingHua University
>>> School of life Sciences
>>> Beijing, China
>>> tel:010-62773783
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 在 2017年12月9日,上午12:43,Bermejo, Guillermo (NIH/CIT) [E] 
>>>> <[email protected]> 写道:
>>>>
>>>> Hi Yikan,
>>>>
>>>> I realized that my original response was only sent to you and not included 
>>>> in the mailing list.   Here it is.
>>>>
>>>> One possibility is that there's something wrong with your script(s).
>>>>
>>>> I recommend basing your calculations on the scripts found in eginput/rna 
>>>> directory (within your Xplor-NIH directory).  There you'll find:
>>>>
>>>> * fold.py, for initial calculations starting from an extended conformation.
>>>> * refine.py, for subsequent refinement.
>>>>
>>>> In addition, you'll find all the restraints for an example system, in case 
>>>> you want to play with the scripts before venturing into your data.  The 
>>>> scripts are highly commented, which should help in customizing them for 
>>>> your needs.  There's also a paper describing them [Bermejo et al., 2016, 
>>>> Structure 24, 806-815].
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Guillermo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: [email protected] 
>>>> <[email protected]> on behalf of ZhangYikan 
>>>> <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Friday, December 8, 2017 6:53 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: [Xplor-nih] Wrong topology structures in conformational sampling
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> hello all,
>>>>
>>>> Recently, I am doing conformational sampling with Xplor-NIH. And I got 
>>>> many pdbs, but when I check them I found that some pdbs have wrong 
>>>> topology structures like the attachments(in the pink cycle ): The RNA 
>>>> linker did not run with the right way and It went through the helix. I 
>>>> have tried to pick the structures by the “total energy” or “repel” terms, 
>>>> but it make no sense. Are there someone know how to kick out these wrong 
>>>> structures or to void these errors in the sampling process? Thank you!
>>>> Yikan
>>>> Ph. D candidate
>>>> TsingHua University
>>>> School of life Sciences
>>>> Beijing, China
>>>> tel:010-62773783
>>
>> <fold.py>
>
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