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Hi, May I ask if XQuartz-2.7.4 has the fix(es) noted in the new article at <http://support.apple.com/kb/DL1605> (X11 Update for MacOS-10.7.5) please? I am still running 10.6.8 with 2.7.4, so I cannot see if it would help my situation here. To explain: My builds of Pan (from the git.gnome.org/pan2 repo) seem to suddenly "disappear" for no apparent reason. For a long time (many many months), there was indication that Pan had "lost" the X11 socket (under /tmp/.X11-unix/). I believe there were no crashreports created when this occurred (I can't find any). My sense was that when Pan was online, it was busy fetching binary NNTP postings from its download queue; when Pan was offline, however, I had no idea what could cause it. Funny thing that my other X11 apps were _still_ running, even other Pan tasks (with different $PAN_HOMEs), and the socket itself had *not* been really "disappeared". ;/ Lately, tho, the Pan project has new code now, but it still "disappears". Now I can see a "Bus error" or "Segment trap" on its Terminal, and a crashreport does get generated -- seems to be inside a GNU TLS call (the project has had SSL support, if the NNTP session can do it, added recently). This occurs even with it offline, totally in the background (hidden and/or minimized), with me not needing to worry about it. And again other X11 tasks stay alive (altho mostly offline, too). I am doubly bewildered now. ;\ I filed a bugreport against Pan, but it never dawned on me that this could be a X11/XQuartz related thing. So, I have become desperately interested in the above update (DL1605), please. (But I will investigate to see if GNU TLS has an update. [BTW: My research indicates that the version 3.x, needed for certain functionality in Pan, is not available with either MacPorts or Fink. I did report this fact to the list, in a roundabout way, and I thought Jeremy said he might be able to get it added to MacPorts at least. This and other reasons are why I don't use any kind of pkg-manager, making me feel like a "loner" in this hobby. ;> ]) Thanks for taking time to read this. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v2.0.19 (Darwin) Comment: GPGTools - http://gpgtools.org iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJQil9mAAoJEKkeWNKet7+Ku4oH/3xfLh4uEVQqT90tjDH+J/jJ IKEGHRpOSTcccr2xHZ1VXwWQG/BFa6TSKJ4YPh3f6/+DjzwmUY3CNNACB3W3iiHK 410+pOIyjAHRprsyXY5UW7aqKNzFWKqeFNZVLag/A6SDY4YxotXF+dbpZfBrMKle e/ZBxxfmZankC0bYL+jEu3BGlMilQtOO/43/X4MmlmveRKL5075WoM2bDKCt6xgM GV9hsYypiX/fF+FiclXpPXoxp/5eEupEYPDEKj2BEh8XGmTbh5uvx8pRESqIw4sH IM+ZxGW1K0jkQKUdClAA03423mlKkkuNfOjsl5+FwCNJtPmyZdDlN4NjDCiWTVk= =bauY -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- _______________________________________________ Xquartz-dev mailing list Xquartz-dev@lists.macosforge.org http://lists.macosforge.org/mailman/listinfo/xquartz-dev