Hi Alain
Pragmatism is an interesting concept at times :-)
Any way, I was in no way suggesting stifling development if that is how you
read my comment; it was just a high level point of principle consideration,
to exercise trusted approaches and principles and ensure agreed standards
and consistency (whatever that all means) and to avoid pitfalls.
As I stated, I am not insinuating XSLTForms currently is any of what I
said; nor was I doing any comparison.
It is all good.
Peace and good will.
Regards
Habs
On 10 April 2016 at 22:06, Alain Couthures <[email protected]>
wrote:
> Hello Habs,
>
> A pragmatic approach is important: XForms recommendation cannot be seen as
> a definitive solution for everything. It is important to know what is
> missing in it, thanks to authors feedback.
>
> Comparing to Orbeon, XSLTForms has much less extensions... Each of them
> have been analyzed in details in recommendation spirit.
>
> The main point is how to standardize approaches. Contributions are welcome
> in XForms Users Community Group (https://www.w3.org/community/xformsusers/
> )!
>
> Regards,
>
> Alain
>
> Le 10/04/2016 22:14, [email protected] a écrit :
>
> Hello everyone
>
> I've been reading these enhancement suggestions (and others) and I realise
> that the XForms specification allows for extensions and leaves things open
> for implementation choices in some areas.
>
> My concern -- and I am saying the following (and perhaps with no great
> qualification to do so) without insinuation that XSLTForms is going this
> way -- is to ask that careful consideration be paid to sticking to XForms
> published standards/specification and to watch carefully that the
> implementation in XSLTForms does not grow into some application full of
> non-standard and/or deviated approaches to meet a perceived shortcoming.
>
> What are your views ?
>
> Regards
> Habs
>
> On 10 April 2016 at 20:45, Alain Couthures <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Mats,
>>
>> - Allowing XSLTForms to be run as Chrome Apps, with file save/open
>> functionality etc.
>>
>> Could you please write some documentation about how you succeeded? It
>> might be added in XSLTForms Wikibook, for example.
>>
>> - Embedding SaxonCE library so that transform() function can run XSLT2
>> transforms
>>
>> Have you modified the transform() function so that it is looking at the
>> version of the stylesheet? Could this better be considered as a global
>> option to be added in config files?
>>
>> - Adding @async attribute to xf:setvalue/xf:insert elements for
>> non-blocking evaluation of long running XPath expressions in Web Workers
>>
>> Web Workers are not available in old browsers but all recent ones do now!
>> I did not try to use them yet (priorities...) and I still wonder how they
>> can access the XML DOM in the main page: is it a problem??
>>
>> - Adding validate-with-xml-schema() function, using xmllint library
>>
>> Is it that Chrome Apps allow you to link C libraries?
>>
>> - Adding validate-with-schematron() function, using SaxonCE. Useful for
>> doing more advanced form validations using SVRL.
>>
>> Is it an XPath function? When are you calling it? Before submission?
>> XForms is based on validation at node level whenever a value has been
>> modified: do you think that it is also compatible with SVRL?
>>
>> - Adding parse-xml() function, believe replacing need for xf:setnode
>>
>> xf:setvalue is there to set a value not to import nodes... That's why I
>> added xf:setnode with the serialized XML string as parameter. In what
>> context do you use parse-xml()? Which document/instance owns the resulting
>> nodes?
>>
>>
>> Would be glad to contribute these as well as some other extensions and
>> performance optimizations.
>>
>> Will be glad to look at them in details!! Is it your intent to publish
>> source files independently or to fork the repository?
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Alain
>>
>>
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