Michael Moore wrote:
I understand the need to stick with apps that perform well on older
machines, but OpenOffice is the cross-platform standard these days,
and I think it should be included with any install even though it will
be slow on older machines.

Just $.02.

Have you used OO.o on an old machine? If so, what was your experience,
and how old was the machine? On PIs, I find that programs like Firefox
are barely usable, and I know OO.o uses a lot more memory than
Firefox.
I have. Just to note I sincerely doubt that Xubuntu will be able to run on a p1 espeshilly if it has an average amount of ram (ie 32mb). I doubt that it will perform well at all on a 64mb machine (more then happy to be corrected on this). I have found that Ram is the determinate of speed and not the processor. Also I have found that to get a p2 300mhz processor is allot easier then getting say 64 or 128mb of ram.


Note that it's not as much a processor speed issue, but rather how
much memory they use and how slow old disks are when you start
swapping halfway through the program startup.

I agree memory is the big issue. Namely Openoffice takes forever to start. I have seen it take up to 5 minutes on an older system (running ubuntulite). I did other tests using ubuntu lite (which is icewm based.) I found that once loaded performance was useable.

64mb of memory. 3 minutes to load (1 with preloading).

128mb of memory 1 minute to load (14 seconds with preloading).

(all tests done on a ibm 300mhz pii).

So with Xubuntu it would probably be a slower loading experince.
While I would consider OO.o to be part of a good distro for modern
machines, if PIs are prevalant in Xubuntu's target audience, I don't
think it's inclusion by default would be a good idea.
Personally I think that it should be like inkscape. On the CD but not installed by default (or comes with a prompt during installation).
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BTW by run I mean run at a slow but useable level.

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