On 5/3/06, Jani Monoses <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


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> I think, if we would create a visible button (something I showed in the
screenshot yesterday) and prevent theme creators to modify it (dont forget
that most of them not visually trained) we would end up a consistent,
user-friendly


we should not prevent anybody from messing up their desktop in any way they
wish. I assume the creator of the user of screenshot you provided is happy
with what she/he did.

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> and always good looking desktop. By the way, following a general
gnome-like design principle, doesn't mean we have to except everything
slavishly and adopting even the bad ideas.


Indeed.

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> That the launchers doesn't have a button appearance is ok, because
"buttonifing" the application menu would mean showing it has a priority over
other items; it is the most important item on the panel, more important than
the launcher icons. And you still can create a subtle rollover effect by
slightly altering its color when clicking on it.

If it's more important or not that again depends on the user. I agree it is
quite important, but that is why it is put in a quickly reachable corner
(almost) by itself.

I don't think that making a button look as if it was selected when it is not
is a good idea. Making it more prominent some other way  may be ok , but
only if it does not create a distraction during normal use.
BTW how does kde do this? Any screenshots?

if i'm not wrong ... panel button look cames from xfce libs ...
obviously it's possible to change it .. but that's somehow an xfce
default look, same as dialog headers and so on.  i 'm not sure, but i
think it could be changed from gtkrc ... if it's really needed


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