On 1/10/07, Jelle de Jong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi guy's,
>
> I have been testing zenwalk on vmware and I am very impressed. I was testing 
> to see how they implemented xfce and the graphical looks of it.
>
> First thing I noticed, was the completion of nice together fitting icon's on 
> all menu items apps, and panel items and more stuff. It just looks right then.
> We can for example exchange this graphical work and build better linux 
> distro's. I think we should really make work of the fitting of the right 
> icons by the apps, also when scaling the icons bigger and smaller they should 
> always look nice.
>
> Also I spoke with some zenwalk users through IRC. And indeed say that they 
> that xubuntu is a bad gnome clone. When I ask further they come by these 
> thoughts because of the top and bottom bar of the desktop. When ask further 
> and defending xubuntu they frustrated pointed to the xubuntu website 
> http://www.xubuntu.org/screenshots. And indeed there is not much change 
> between the screenshots. Time for some changes there guys. We can change this 
> "bad" image very easily. We use xfce and so do they it is easily to changes 
> the looks to something similar to zenwalk and dreamlinux so lets do this. 
> Jmak I believe you were head of the xubuntu art work? Can you do this? and 
> change edgy in a few different configuration's with different looks. Also 
> make a tutorial around it so user can easily do it them self. We can put this 
> on the website.
>
> Also we could make a tool/script system for xfce to be able to load different 
> graphical configurations all in one time. To be more detailed: xfce is using 
> his own settings to make xfce appear like it is now. Zenwalk and Dreamlinux 
> and other xfce distro's also have to manually set all these settings. Let's 
> make a tool or extend the "User interface preferences" with a configuration 
> file and a open standard for it. That let us load different graphical 
> configurations for the total xfce desktop system. Jani, I believe you have 
> the best contacts with xfce developers like Benedikt. Can you do some work on 
> this front?
>
> Good idea's? To much text here? Am I to pussy? :-D
>

This is what I am saying for some time. People are choosing distro
after look. I think we can significantly liven up the interface
without a major overhaul. That's why I suggested the menu button,
though Jani said it wasn't feasible (anyhow, I make a few more
versions keep check on the wiki).
The other thing is that we use the most boring generic icon-set
amongst all the distros. Dream Linux uses fancy mac style ones. I am
arguing against this tango stuff for some time. Just using a nice icon
set would liven up significantly the desktop and this wouldn't cost
much investment.
I prefer the gnome layout, and now we have a unique opportunity to
make a fancier looking gnome style xfce distro that sticks out.
I am also arguing against the depressing over-sized panels and I've
never understood the logic behind disabling the icons.
We also need customized gtk and xfwm themes. Just fixing these simple
issues would already make a difference.
I am working on further ideas.

Jmak
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