For now I say let's not bother with gvfs, if we can get rid of libgnomeui and
bonobo that is
good enough. gvfs API has no GTK equivalent yet, so the code that would
substitute it is unlikely
to be accepted upstream.
Lionel Le Folgoc wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Giuseppe Torelli wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> can someone make a list of those apps which needs to be stripped of
>> GNOME deps please? This way we can assign each app to volunteers and
>> begin the work.
>>
>> Thanks,
>
> IMO, there is one important app:
>
> * evince: it's depending on libgnome{,ui,vfs,keyring} and pushing them
> on the iso. This is not too much hard work (updating the patches from
> the 0.5.2-0ubuntu7 version), a bit long though; I wanted to do it, but I
> didn't have the time/motivation, sorry :/ (see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evince/+bug/121871). I think
> Jani should be able to help since he made the previous patches.
>
Gvfs can stay, and upstream is actually supposed to be buildable with gvfs only
I do not know why libgnome is pulled in again.
>
> Then there are some wishlist items:
>
> * update-notifier: currently, xubuntu users are not notified of packages
> updates, unless they install this app which depends on libgnomeui and
> libgnomevfs (see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/89263)
Again, leave gvfs for now (it is used for inotify support) and get rid of
GnomeClient usage. I talked to Michael Vogt (the developer) personally and
he is open to such changes. Maybe a bug filed in their bugzilla or a mail on
their list,
will be enough for the same people who made the final patch to fix the build
again.
>
> * libgnome2-perl: this would allow us to ship a debconf graphical
> frontend (see
> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/50168)
>
indeed, a perl coder is needed here although not necessarily experienced one.
gnomeppower-manager gnome-screensaver and gnome-network-manager have patches
pending upstream.
Other apps, all are found in GNOME svn
vino - VNC/RDP remote desktop server, depends on libgnome and bonobo (not easy
to replace)
gnome-games - low hanging fruit, many libgnome apis used but examples of how to
replace them
are found in the bugzilla summary that I sent earlier.
totem, sound-juicer - depend on libgnome
in general any app in the default Ubuntu install (and no other apps!) that you
think could be
useful in Xubuntu.
Anyone who takes up a task to work on these issues should do the hard work by
himself, without
nagging upstream, reading the code and GTK/glib docs (with devhelp or online).
airconfig is not an option for Xubuntu, when we have a wifi GUI it will be
network manager.
Jani
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