On Dec 18, 2007 3:33 PM, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Xfce4 has a built in compositor and I'd recommend we enable it by > default for machines that can support it for Hardy+1. >
Great, but doesn't it require an nvidia driver to work? > > Hi, > > > > I just managed to get this out of my spambox before I emptied it. Perhaps it > > also landed in spam for other Gmail users. > > > > Yesterday, ubuntu's art direction notes were released. The design and > > > the direction of the outlined solutions are outstanding. Hopefully, > > > they manage to solve all the outstanding issues presented in the > > > specifications. Suggestion: let's syncronize xubuntu's visual > > > development with these specifications, as much as possible. > > > > > > Sounds cool to me, and plastic looks good too. Can't see to clearly what it > > is that they did different, it's just darker I guess. Looks good in any > > case. > > > > You can read the specs here: > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Hardy/Alternate/BasicIdeals > > > > > > As you noticed from the specs, the new design direction is to move > > > away from the glossy interface toward a flatter more plastic > > > interface. This is the direction, I suggest for xubuntu development as > > > well. This will require changes in the gtk theming, icon theming, > > > window manager theming, among others. I already have some ideas; soon, > > > I will put together a mockup for further discussion. > > > > > > But in order to be able to proceed, we have to settle a few issues > > > right at the beggining. These are: > > > > > > 1) Panels. I conclude from the previous discussions that the dual > > > panel setup will remain. But we still have to hammer out an optimal > > > panel size and panel color. > > > > > > Isn't colour decided by the GTK theme? > > > > 2) GTK themes. As you see, ubuntu designers want a completely new gtk > > > design. Not sure yet, but they also use the murrina engine, that we > > > are already using. The gtk theme is so unique that it is unlikely that > > > we can find something even remotely similar to that among the > > > available stock designs. So, one of the possibility would be talking > > > to the author and ask him to create a color variations for xubuntu. > > > > > > Haha, we were earlier to adopt the awesome Murrine engine than Ubuntu - take > > that! :P > > > > Seriously though, if that would possible I suppose it would be great :) > > > > 3) The icon theme. Possible candidates, crashbit and oxyGnome. Here is > > > a screenshot: > > > > > > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/Incoming/Xubuntu/GutsyIdeas > > > > > > I personally prefer oxygnome becase they are not glossy but more > > > plastic like, exactly that we want. And also very complete. > > > > > > If it matches the GTK theme, fine with me. > > > > 4) Icon label backgrounds. This is something we already discussed a > > > few months ago but haven't decided what to do about them. For me, > > > these are one of the most annoying visual distractions in xubuntu. > > > Ideas: get rid of them completely. In the mean time, create an entry > > > in the documentation that explains users how to change the font colors > > > of the icons. This is in fact very easy and I think is well within the > > > expertise even for less experienced users. The other possibility would > > > be to write a simple graphical configurator something like the murrina > > > configurator. > > > > > > Changing the font colours isn't really an option for me, since I have a > > different wallpaper everytime I login. The labels are more suitable in cases > > like that. Just my two cents. > > > > 5) Wallpaper. Dark-blue, multicolor? Work in progress. > > > > > > 6) GDM login. Work in progress. > > > > > > 7) Usplash. I've heard anything about it. Still broken? Anyone? > > > > > > In my Gutsy installation the screen has a resolution of 1280x1024 while the > > Usplash only takes about 800x600. It's a different kind of black than the > > normal screen-black. Though I have to admit, the logo and progress bar look > > prettier when smaller. > > > > Notes: Obviously, we have to work with xfce built in limitations. We > > > won't be able to match all xubuntu design elements exactly to that of > > > ubuntu's. For instance, we wont be able to use panel transparencies, > > > widget transparencies and drop-shadows, because we dont use compiz by > > > default. But we have to strive to create an overall visual appearance > > > that is as close to ubuntu as it can. > > > > > > Murrine can now use transparency if compositing is enabled and fallback to > > normal widgets if not: > > http://www.cimitan.com/blog/2007/12/12/gtk-rgba-transparent-widgets-with-the-murrine-engine > > > > Not sure if the version that will come with Hardy already supports it. Would > > be useful, of course :) > > > > Please speak up on the issues mentioned above, or add yours to the > > > list, to be able to settle them as quickly as possible. > > > > > > > > > jmak > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Vincent > > > > > -- > > > Firefox (www.getfirefox.com) -- A browser you can trust > > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel > -- http://jozmak.blogspot.com/ -- xubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
