> Or people deflecting to Fluxbuntu are saying "xubuntu is becoming ubuntu 
> with a theme, rather then a lightweight desktop environment" and went 
> elsewhere

Those who say that are clueless, because Xubuntu is not Ubuntu with a theme.

The effort of switching back to the handful of apps that were in before 
7.10 is about 5 minutes if people really cannot live with more features. 
But if they choose fluxbuntu instead of doing that they most definitely 
have other reasons than those apps.

Again, it would help if you provided clearer data rather than assumptions.

Jani


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