2009/4/27 Simon Steinbeiß <[email protected]> > On Thu, 23 Apr 2009 12:01:01 +0100 > Vincent <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > I don't really do desktop coding so I'm not really up to scratch with > > regards to fd.o standards, but IIUC there is one standard for > notifications > > that is adhered to by libnotify (the example implementation IIRC), > > notify-osd and xfce4-notifyd. Therefore, all applications that support > this > > standard should be unified in not only Xubuntu but most Linux > distributions. > > Unfortunately, some applications still prefer to show their own > > notifications. > > > > Thus, what I'm trying to say is that you don't really need Xubuntu to > look > > at it but each individual application that doesn't adhere to the standard > > (which most of them do, I'd argue). > > > > Hi, > I do understand your point. Nevertheless there are a few cases where I > think Xubuntu > should do some work on the notification system. (The applications that > don't adhere to the > standards are most likely to be patched by Ubuntu anyway, or so I like to > assume.) > > There are two specific use cases that came to my attention when I first > tried notify-osd > a few days ago. > The first is the brightness control, which is neatly integrated in > notify-osd. (That's > exactly the kind of "unification" of desktop appearance I'm referring to in > this > discussion's title.) The other one is (audio)volume control. At the moment > xfce4's mixer > is lacking a cli to achieve volume changes, but even so it's possible > through workarounds > (like the small script I posted before). I think volume-changes should be - > *by default* > - reflected in the notification system. At the moment xfce4-notifyd is > unable to display > bars and even if this doesn't change, I would argue that a display of > percentage in > numbers would be sufficient. > > For other programmes like Skype I'm happy to share the few additional lines > one needs to > add to Skype's $USERPROFILE/config.xml so that other users might take > advantage of this > too. (Maybe a wiki would be a good place.) > > Going back to brightness and volume control, I took a look at Ubuntu's > notify-osd > Development Guidelines ( > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotificationDevelopmentGuidelines) and at > least for me this is too complex to sort it out. Maybe some of you are > skilled enough > (and willing) to understand how they send the brightness/volume control > through > notify-osd. (This would not only be helpful to adopt their method for > xfce4-notifyd but > also to be able to implement volume-controls for Xubuntu users that prefer > notify-osd > over xfce4-notifyd.) > > So to finally return to your argument Vincent, I believe you are right that > Xubuntu > doesn't have to patch tons of applications but it still would be nice if > user's had the > choice between two notification daemons of equal functionality (at least as > long as it's > unclear to which of the two Xubuntu will stick). >
I get your point, and I'd recommend you to contact the Xfce developers (through http://bugzilla.xfce.org/enter_bug.cgi ) as I think it'd be their job to add this (at least for brightness and volume, as I think Xfce handles this). Then again, I think they'll be reluctant in adding this until Canonical manages to get this into freedesktop.org. > > Just my two cents, > Simon > -- Vincent
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