On Sat, 16 Jan 2010 18:17:26 +0100 Vincent <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Sat, Jan 16, 2010 at 6:09 PM, Lionel Le Folgoc <[email protected]>wrote: > > > Hi folks, > > > > Since karmic, gnome-screensaver heavily relies on gnome-session (for > > example to get the inactivity time). Therefore, it won't automatically > > activate on Xfce. Xubuntu 9.10 has been released with this bug [1]; I > > would like to avoid releasing lucid with the same broken feature. > > > > Here are some possible alternatives: > > (1) patch gnome-screensaver to restore the old behavior; > > (2) switch to xscreensaver by default; > > (3) develop another Xfce-oriented screensaver; > > (4) do nothing. > > > > IMHO, (1) isn't going to happen: upstream won't change it back, I don't > > have time to patch gnome-screensaver nor to waste time to try to > > convince some people of the desktop team to apply it (but if you have, > > please step up)… > > > > (3) looks sexy, but is a bit unwise wrt to security matters. > > Screensavers are usually used to lock screens, so are sensitive pieces > > of software. I'm not sure it'll be ready (and secure enough) for lucid… > > > > (2) xscreensaver isn't really pretty, but works fine. At the moment, I > > don't know if it can be manually customized by the artwork team, any > > hints? (there is already [2] to track this) > > > > (4) isn't really an option. If nothing has been achieved or no decision > > has been made before the UserInterfaceFreeze (March 4th, one week before > > the first beta), I think I'll set xscreensaver by default (2), because > > we can't release lucid as broken as karmic. > > > > > > These are some quick thoughts. If you think I've missed an obvious > > alternative, have better ideas or have already started to work on > > something, feel free to react. > > > > > > Cheers, > > Lionel > > > > > > [1] <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-meta/+bug/493573> > > [2] > > <https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xubuntu-artwork/+bug/361678> > > > > -- > > > > #2 sounds good to me. The dialog apparently can be themed to some extent > [3]. Not sure if this requires another package and, if so, whether that > would be doable. > > The loss in accessibility is a shame, but the only alternative to that is > including both gnome-screensaver (with the risks mentioned in [3]) and > gnome-session. I don't think that's really an option - hopefully it's not > too big of a hassle for people with disabilities to install them manually. > > [3] http://www.jwz.org/xscreensaver/toolkits.html > Considering that xscreensaver has many themes already, and that gnome-screensaver is broken, can we please have xscreensaver. I have removed gnome-screensaver and installed xscreensaver many times, because xscreensaver does work. It works on older hardware too. Thanks, -- Charlie Kravetz Linux Registered User Number 425914 [http://counter.li.org/] Never let anyone steal your DREAM. [http://keepingdreams.com] -- xubuntu-devel mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel
