On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 11:42 AM, James Freer <[email protected]> wrote:
> -----Original Message----- > From: Pasi Lallinaho <[email protected]> > To: Xubuntu Development Discussion > <[email protected].**com<[email protected]> > > > Sent: Mon, 25 Jul 2011 20:18 > Subject: Re: Replacing GIMP > > > On 07/25/2011 08:23 PM, Bruno Benitez wrote: > I do know that there is no such "standard image editor" but if we > never start finding one, or adding one to our apps then we > will never have one, I think there should be a "standard image > editor" (pinta/gpaint/nathive/other) a "professional image editor" > (GIMP/others) and then we could have "Image viewers" whit some > "editing capabilities" (gpicview/gthumb). I do not propose Pinta > directly, It looks awesome in my opinion, but it does depend a lot > on Mono, so if its choosen it wont ment a huge space saver > either... > > -- > Bruno.- > > > > Jarno and Bruno, > > please focus your energy in creating the application comparison. A few > good points to include would be: > > 1. What features do we expect an image editor to have, at least? > 2. What do you think is the learning curve for the different editors? > 3. How light are the applications? > 4. How mature are they in development? > > Looking at the history of application comparisons and proposals in > Xubuntu, it seems that there is a high possibility to get change in the > defaults, as long as you are willing to work for it, and the > rationalizing is sufficient. > > Cheers, > Pasi > > In response to the above request here's my views. I like the graphics for > photo processing... i'd consider myself an average user 'processing' to > reduce size, watermark and occasionally add special effects. I use Bulk > Rename to rename in my own system - date with number so the camera numbering > like DCFN05674 doesn't end up overwriting. I use eog to view [better than > gpicview and other lightweights], and then ImageMagick to reduce size and > watermark all a convenient one liner [used to use picasa but that didn't > seem to like xubuntu and i didn't discover why]. Imagemagick appears to have > sophistication that Gimp doesn't have and yet is also great for the > intermediate level user who doesn't want the 'bells and whistles' - thus > clearly fitting with the xubuntu user's ethos 'MINIMAL, FAST, FIT-FOR > -PURPOSE'. Gimp for processing i found quite hard work to learn and read > into. Imagemagick also goes nicely with llgal for one's albums. Both > commandline apps which for processing a directory of hundreds of pics is the > way to go. perhaps shortly i should write a wiki for xubuntu on Imagemagick > and llgal to shorten the learning curve. > > > 1. What features do we expect an image editor to have, at least? > I think we need to define it clearly - Viewer and editor [i don't feel the > two are the same]. The viewer should be simple like eog capable of > screenshow, rotating images, saving to desktop (we all like our favourite > pics in front of us). Separate app for 'processing' Imagemagick and llgal. > > > 2. What do you think is the learning curve for the different editors? > For most users it should be a day or two (couple of evenings) - with a > nice straight forward wiki even less. > > > 3. How light are the applications? > On the minimal side quite light and yet Imagemagick on the sophisticated > side light as it's commandline. > > > 4. How mature are they in development? > eog, Imagemagick, llgal - all well established and polished apps. When > considering the 'minimal' approach i think it is important to have sound > well tested apps. One thing which puts me off an app even if it's good is > how polished it is. I use Mousepad as an editor, it does just what i want [i > can always use gedit if i need to]. Similarly with Bulk Rename - it does all > i need is nice an simple whereas Krename has more 'eye candy' but i don't > think does the job better. > > Pasi's request wasn't to answer those questions here in short on the mailinglist, but to make a detailed comparison of all viable options using these questions as guidelines, on the Ubuntu wiki. See the links he attached for examples. > --james > > -- > xubuntu-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.ubuntu.com/**mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel<https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/xubuntu-devel> > -- Vincent
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