Since we are talking about the Strategy Document, please let me remind
that performance is still one of our focuses. Just not in the same way
than before.
In my opinion, the ultimate question about any new feature or inclusion
is if it's worth using the extra system resources for that. And that
again is something that the Xubuntu team should discuss and decide on
using the Strategy Document as their guide.
Cheers,
Pasi
On 24/04/13 20:39, Bruno Benitez wrote:
In our voted and accepted strategy document we state:
"Xubuntu does not explicitly target users with low, modest, or high
powered machines but instead targets the entire spectrum. Xubuntu's
extra responsiveness and speed, among other positive traits, can be
appreciated by all users, regardless of their hardware."[1]
I sincerely think we should not focus on "old/low specs" machines. I
don't think that would help xubuntu in the imminent future.
Having default applications that run smoothly and are simple but
powerful its awesome, but we already know, and it was discussed to
death before that people usually just apt-gets the applications they
like most almost immediately after installing xubuntu.
stuff like default media player, default text editor, default office
suite, default web browser are usually very personal and changes from
person to person.
But the poeple who develops xubuntu might want to consider taking what
its best of the rest of ubuntu, stuff like HUD are awesome, it makes
the system more modern and brings more power to the users hands, while
not taking the whole unity road and using HUD to take lots of other
stuff from the user. Unity its not pretty. HUD is.
But again, thats my opinion and I might be alone here.
[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument
2013/4/24 Eero Tamminen <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
Hi,
On keskiviikko 24 huhtikuu 2013, Bruno Benitez wrote:
> Yes, HUD integration might increase system load, but would that harm
> much? i think not.
On several years old laptop with Intel IGP, Unity and Gnome3
desktop performance is clearly subpar [1], while Xubuntu works
fine.
I would say that compositing desktop starts to perform well enough
when one has something like desktop i3 IGP with at least 2GB (system)
RAM. If you have something older & slower, especially with mobile
version of IGP, or less RAM, it's uncomfortably slow.
There's also increasing number of ARM devices, tablets and things
like rPi
(which run at ~1Ghz and have 0.5 - 1GB of RAM). While these can run
current Xubuntu fairly comfortably, compositing desktops are not that
good match for them, because of compositing memory overhead [1],
especially
for larger resolution (HDTV) desktops, and window sizes on such
desktops.
- Eero
[1] It's a bit funny when people so lightly suggest adding
non-optional
compositing memory overhead to Xubuntu when people obsess
about gnome
library dependencies, which memory impact would be smaller than
the memory overhead from composited windows...
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