Re: Shipping LibreOffice (Was: Re: Feature request)

Wed, 08 Jan 2014 05:27:20 -0800

My 2 cts:
I understand lightness, which is why I like Xubuntu. Having said that, in order to get more users on Xubuntu (or all Ubuntu flavors for that matter) I think we need to take into account that a lot of computer work involves interoperability with other people/computers. For example my kid's school sends announcements often in DOCX file format.
So, I think interoperability is really important and as such I think we need to embrace it. Abiword has no way of reading DOC or DOCX (neither has gnumeric for XLS or XLSX) so it is unsuitable in many cases. I really do not understand how one can use Xubuntu in a normal daily life interacting with people who don't have a strong philosophy about open software or open file formats without LibreOffice.

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On 01/08/2014 05:37 AM, Pasi Lallinaho wrote:
Including LibreOffice in the Xubuntu seed has been discussed numeours of times and the team has always decided to include it. At the moment we're preparing an LTS release with many more things to do, which are also much more important to do than prepare and execute LibreOffice integration.

From my point of view, including LibreOffice on the ISO for optional installation is really close to just installing it, and I don't know why we would like to do the latter. On the other hand, being installable is really close to what we have now: the whole suite is in the repositories for installation already.

All that being said, LibreOffice won't be in Xubuntu 14.04, even as an installation option.

What's the situation after the LTS release? I don't know. If you really think it's a better fit for Xubuntu, start preparing a specification that covers questions about suitability, lightness, etc. The Strategy Document has a full and pretty thorough section about seeds and composition [1]. More importantly, be ready to *do* something, not expect others to do it for you: the team hasn't been interested enough now to integrate LibreOffice, so it is highly likely that even if you got the team convinced Xubuntu should have LibreOffice, you probably still need to work, or get somebody to work on it.

Cheers,
Pasi

[1] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Xubuntu/StrategyDocument#Seeds_.26_Composition

On 08/01/14 11:45, PK wrote:
LibreOffice in Xubuntu seems a good idea to me. The only disadvantage I can think of, is that the iso probably won't fit on a 1 GB USB memory stick anymore.

But 1 GB memory sticks have gone the way of the dinosaurs a long time ago, so that's no real problem, I think. Heck, I myself probably can't even find the 1 GB stick that I still have somewhere....  :-)

Regards, Pjotr.



2014/1/8 Jackson Doak <[email protected]>
We're discussing changing to libreoffice, since abiword is generally rather unstable. You could use a custom ISO maker to replace the parts manually.


On Wed, Jan 8, 2014 at 11:43 AM, Joel Ewing <[email protected]> wrote:
Hello,
I am wondering if including an option to install LibreOffice during the Xubuntu installation (in place of or alongside Abiword and Gnumeric) could be considered for an upcoming release of Xubuntu.
Recently, I was part of a group to decide what Linux distribution should be chosen to run on a fleet of old laptops that were owned by a school.  I suggested Xubuntu, but my suggestion was ignored partly because Xubuntu does not come with LibreOffice.  Although Abiword and Gnumeric are great at what they do, many users seem to gravitate towards LibreOffice because it is more fully-featured.  I would appreciate if the developers could look into this matter.
Thank you.

Joel Ewing

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