Hello,

  The slide deck for yesterday's VanDev talk titled
"The Future of the Web: Rich Clients, Rich Browsers,
Rich Portals - Beyond HTML: A Look at Markup Languages
For Creating Rich "Classic Desktop-Style"
Applications" by Gerald Bauer are now available
online.

  The content includes:

  o Why Rich Clients? Why Rich Browsers? Isn't Dynamic
HTML (aka HTML, DOM, JavaScript) enough? 
  o One Language Can't Do It All: Beyond Hairballs and
Spaghetti Code 
  o What is XUL? 
  o XUL Vision 
  o Lines of Code Benchmark: MFC vs. WindowsForms vs.
XUL 
  o XUL Architecture - Beyond Hairballs and Spaghetti
Code 
  o XML is not ... / The "Golden Hammer" Fallacy 
  o XUL Tag Sampling 
  o First Impression - XUL In Action - Counter Example

  o Man vs. Machine - XUL (XML UI Language) vs.
General All-Purpose XML Formats 
  o First Impression - XAML In Action - Forms 
  o What is XAML? 
  o Lines of Code Benchmark: XAML vs. C# 
  o XAML Widget Tag Sampling - XUL-like Tags 
  o XAML Box Layout Tags (aka Panels) 
  o XAML (Hyper)Text Tag Sampling - HTML-like Tags 
  o XAML 2D Graphics Tag Sampling - SVG-like Tags 
  o XAML Styling Sample 
  o Second Impression - XUL In Action - Calculator
Example 
  o Third Impression - XUL In Action - Alternative
Calculator Example 
  o The XUL/XUI/XAML Naming Debate 
  o XML UI Languages & Acronyms Abound 
  o Why are there so many XUL/XML UI formats? 
  o Industry Giants At Work 
  o What about the W3C? 
  o HTML 5- Web Hypertext Application Technology
(WHAT) Working Group (WG) 
  o The Five Freedoms of the XUL Charter 
  o Internet Explorer Is Dead - The Next Browser Is
Windows 2006 Itself 
  o Quotes From the Microsoft Avalon Team 
  o The Commercial Web vs. the Hippie Web 
  o Amazon.com Case Study - Will Amazon.com Adopt
XAML? 
  o Google.com Case Study - Will Google.com Adopt
XAML? 
  o Reach vs. Rich - HTML vs XAML - Web vs. Windows 
  o That's it - The Future Just Happened 

  Appendix
  o XUL Grand Coding Challenge 2004 
    - XForms, Thinlet, Flex, SwiXml, xWidglets, ...
  o What is MyXAML? 
    - XAML-Friendly, Markup-Friendly .NET Libraries 
    - XAML-Friendly .NET Library Case Stu

   More @
http://xul.sourceforge.net/talk/vandev-feb-2005/slides.html
       

   - Gerald



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