I would rather have ONE language with custom extensions to it and have many engines that use that language as they see fit. Right now, if someone go the XAML route, they are stuck with it. Same thing for XUL and every single languages. And frankly, XSLT transforms are by no mean a solution to this.
I know this will never happen, but it would be VERY nice if people would just sit down at once and standardize a common core for UI metadata and then incrementally add possibility to that core as the needs arise. Sebastien Lorion > -----Message d'origine----- > De : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] la part de > Gerald Bauer > Envoye : Friday, August 13, 2004 10:59 AM > A : [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Objet : [xul-talk] Discussion Spotlight: XUL at the Server Side (TSS) > > > Hello, > > Dion Almaer has kicked off an XML UI language (XUL) > discussion over at the Server Side with a posting > titled "Introducing the Reflexive User Interface > Builder". > > Dion writes: > > The IBM Reflexive User Interface Builder (RIB), a > new technology available from alphaWorks, is an > application and toolkit for building and rendering > Java AWT/Swing and Eclipse SWT UIs. RIB specifies a > flexible and easy-to-use XML markup language for > describing Java UIs and provides an engine for > creating them. You can use RIB to test and evaluate > basic UI layout and functionality, or to create and > render UIs for an application. > > Here we see another example of using XML to > declaratively setup UIs (a la XAML, XUL, and co.). > > > Yanick Duchesne responds to a "Yet another XUL > framework?" posting: > > You're yet another "too-much-choice-and-diversity" > whiner. To tell you the truth, I do not care about the > number of frameworks attacking a given problem space. > The more, the better: I have more chances of finding > what really suits me. > > The "yet-another" attitude is too common, and > somewhat contradictory: you problably dissaprove of > the M$ monopoly, do you - as most Java people do? Deep > inside, you WANT choice and diversity. > > >> Finally the question is can these XML based UI > scripts really replace make things easy for anyone? > > If you are asking the question, it's probably because > you don't have the answer yourself: you have probably > not tried the approach. So why are you judging? > > Get my answer: yes, the approach works; it makes > things easier. I've tried, I know. It's about time we > get into rich clients. Others have: > http://www.rebol.com/prod-view.html > > >> I see these frameworks as great research projects > never seeing the light of day for practical > applications. > > What's a "practical application" ? What's it to you? > What's it to me? Isn't this highly subjective? > Couldn't I build a "practical application" whose user > interface is built with XUL? I mean: isn't > "practicability" about functionality first and > foremost (and not about UI)? You might answer that the > UI plays some role; ok then: aren't rich clients more > "practical" than you're standard HTML jsp/asp page, in > terms of user experience, interactivity, > responsiveness? > > Open yourself. > > More @ > http://www.theserverside.com/news/thread.tss?thread_id=28029 > > What's your take on the diversity of XML UI language > formats? Is it a strength or a weakness? > > > ------------------- > Gerald Bauer > > XUL Alliance | http://xul.sourceforge.net > United XAML | http://xaml.sourceforge.net > > Interested in hiring Gerald Bauer? Yes, I'm available. > If you know of an opportunity in Toronto or Vancouver, > please contact me today. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media > 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 > Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. > http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 > _______________________________________________ > xul-talk mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-talk > ------------------------------------------------------- SF.Net email is sponsored by Shop4tech.com-Lowest price on Blank Media 100pk Sonic DVD-R 4x for only $29 -100pk Sonic DVD+R for only $33 Save 50% off Retail on Ink & Toner - Free Shipping and Free Gift. http://www.shop4tech.com/z/Inkjet_Cartridges/9_108_r285 _______________________________________________ xul-talk mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/xul-talk
