Alan Coopersmith wrote:
> Martin Bochnig wrote:
>>> Martin Bochnig wrote:
>>>> The funniest thing: I'm still only a plain
>>> contributor in the xwin-community, so is Moinak
>>> Ghosh!!!
>>>>   
>>> Have you emailed the X Window System Community and
>>> asked for core contributor status?  I'm sure you are more than
>>> qualified.
>>
>> We had done this. We (Moinak and I) had been told it would "depend on 
>> our future behaviour, and then they would decide". Message must be in 
>> the xwin archives somewhere, back last July or August.
>
> I don't remember you asking. 


Ah, yes: I recall that you have a selective memory: 
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/xwin-discuss/2007-October/002453.html
"MB>  #0) I told you many things you did not remember. Why do you 
exactly remember this single of all my statements? Because it is the 
most convenient to think of??? Why don't you
 MB>         remember, for example, that I had told you immediately 
afterwards (back then), that it had been a statement motivated by 
desperate dark sarcasm??

AC: I don't know - the human memory is strange.   Perhaps it stuck out"
AC:  because it was such a unusual thing to say.



> When I proposed the FOX project


You have proposed it?
I had long before, only not under the name "FOX".
See xwin archives beginning in April 2006.
URL's on demand!


> I decided to start the process by making you Contributors:
>
>     ...the Community at this time grants Contributor status
>     to Martin & Moinak, with the intention to review for Core Contributor
>     status once the project is underway.
>
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/xwin-discuss/2007-June/002152.html
>
> Given that Moinak has only putback one line of change to the shared
> Mercurial repository, and you none, I haven't seen any reason to
> nominate you for Core Contributor status based on that work.


"based on that work" ???
Yes, true. We didn't push our code into the mercurial gate, but rather 
released stuff on external file servers, for several reasons that don't 
matter here.
But didn't we release the full complete diffs and tarballs???

e.g. here:
http://www.martux.org/xorg/FOX1.0/src/
http://www.martux.org/xorg/FOX1.0/src/FOXpre1.0_Alan20070901__Moinak20070501__Martin20070930__x64_x86_sparc_merge_XXX.tar.bz2
http://www.martux.org/xorg/FOX1.0/src/fox-gate__AlanMercurDefault20070901sat1153hCEST___VERSUS___XXX__fox-gate__Alan20070901__Moinak20070501__Martin20071012__x64_x86__sparc.gdiff.bz2
http://www.martux.org/xorg/FOX1.0/src/fox-gate__AlanMercurDefault20070901sat1153hCEST___VERSUS___XXX__fox-gate__Alan20070901__Moinak20070501__Martin20071012__x64_x86__sparc_gdiff.txt

Announcement: 20071012fri: 
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/xwin-discuss/2007-October/002578.html

and of course in April:
http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/
http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/20070503__7.2.0/src/0__20070227/
http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/20070503__7.2.0/src/1__20070410/
http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/20070503__7.2.0/src/2__20070430moinakg__x86_NOsparc/
http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/20070503__7.2.0/src/3__20070430moinakg__Belenix_OR_marTux_x86_OR_sparc/

http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/20070503__7.2.0/
http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/20071008mon/
http://www.martux.org/xorg/OLD/fox-gate/

Observe and take into account that it is called "FOX", CC'ed to 
indiana-discuss, full of complete Sun license headers, and that the 
pkgdefs for the binary packages have use the "SUNW" prefix, not BLNX, 
MRTX or whatever.

Bundled with complete and detailed instructions?
You could easily have taken the code and pushed it in by yourself.
It was synced back then.
And I practically had bombarded the xwin-discuss list with all my status 
info and findings (especially in April, May and then late summer of this 
year), eg. here:

http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?threadID=27458&tstart=0

Or when I worked on testing the water in terms of a Xsun ddx wrapper 
module 10 nights and days long:
http://www.opensolaris.org/jive/thread.jspa?messageID=144733&;

 If you don't have the Alzheimer's desease you cannot have forgotten my 
full-time involvement. It is also unlikely your partner/boss Mr. "S. 
[anonymoous]" would have gently picked me up from SFO Intl. airport to 
drive me to Menlo Park and introduce me to the whole rest of the X 
server group if I hadn't done something that looks important enough to you:
http://mail.opensolaris.org/pipermail/xwin-discuss/2007-October/002598.html

Seeing you now writing lied half-truths like above ("based on that 
work") brings me to the point where I will take rotten eggs and fish. 
And I will friendly great you and then let's shake hands.


>
> That shouldn't stop anyone else, including yourself, who thinks either
> you or Moinak deserve Core Contributor status for that or other work, 
> from requesting that of the community.
>

How do you define this? Haven't enough mails been written?
No, thanks. Keep it.

I wish you what you deserve, more than wishing me, what I do.
A long-term community member and good friend had once warned me about 
you, and back then I didn't believe him. I thought you were my friend.

Now, unfortunately, I have to.

p.s. You would make a gifted lawyer. Turning black ink into red numbers, 
a square with white mice in it into a blue singing circle.

--
Martin Bochnig

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