Well they must be the fingerless ones or ones who can't type or they're afraid to come out and answer some of the complaints. Now, maybe Yahoo! employees are in this group but in all the time I've been a member, I've yet to see anyone identify themselves as someone affiliated with Yahoo Messenger. I'm sure there probably are some advertising and administrative people who are here trying to figure out some of the problems with their own YM programs. ;-)
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Have a great Memorial Day weekend. --Rick --- In [email protected] <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> , "LNVTM1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I never said anything about not complaining. It's every consumer's right to > complain and quite often, the squeaky wheel gets the grease. But I don't > think anyone from Yahoo actually monitors this forum so complaining here > will not effect any changes. We can try to help people here but there's > nothing anyone can do in this forum to effect change. > > I simply explained things from a business standpoint (dollars and cents) > about market share and advertising and why Yahoo probably doesn't spend the > money on the Mac version of YM. I would have said the same thing about any > other free program for Windows versus Mac. The manufacturer/programmer has > to decide how much money they will spend out of their pocket trying to get > the program to the masses and then sell advertising to recoup their > investment in R & D and ongoing support. > > I personally wish Yahoo would concentrate on getting the basic functions > working perfectly instead of all of the add on junk which mucks things up > IMO. > > I still use version 7.5.0.819 and will not upgrade to version 8.1... until I > feel it is stable. As long as 7.5 does everything I need, I don't want a > new typically more bloated program on my system. I don't use YM to listen > to music or play games or any of the other junk it purports to do. I use it > to IM and chat. > > There is a Yahoo Messenger blog http://blog. <http://blog.messenger.yahoo.com/blog/> messenger.yahoo.com/blog/where > you can post comments and there is an actual live person who reads the > comments so if you haven't already done so, go there and complain till your > keyboard wears out. Maybe, just maybe, Yahoo will listen... but don't hold > your breath! :D > > As far as Beta versions, believe me, YM for Windows suffers just as bad for > Beta versions. I've participated in beta testing dozens of programs over > the years but I would NEVER beta test a new version of YM. The final > releases are too buggy for me... I can only imagine how bad the beta version > are. LOL > > Lenny Vasbinder 504-621-1870 > > FREE and automatic online remote backup of your documents, photos and > files... https://mozy. <https://mozy.com/?ref=SY4ZSI> com/?ref=SY4ZSI Check out how simple and secure it > can be to use the Mozy remote backup system. Mozy will back up your most > important files and folders every day/night while you aren't using your > computer. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Yahoo_Messenger@ <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > [mailto:Yahoo_Messenger@ <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Rick Rudge > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:19 AM > To: Yahoo_Messenger@ <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Y!M] Re: Yahoo Messenger for Mac > > Hello daiy666, > > I agree with you. Yahoo! spends the least amount on their Macintosh > development and their Mac versions always have the barest amount of > features. I understand LNVTM1's comments, coming from the Windows side, but > we Macintosh users are spoiled by the quality Macintosh programs that we use > and are accustomed to a higher expectation of quality from other companies. > > LNVTM1 might be impressed with the amount of DOS scripts out for his > platform, but quantity isn't the same thing as quality. We Macintosh users > are shocked at the products coming from Yahoo! > > Look through this Y!M group's archive of postings and you'll read all kinds > of complaints about the various Windows versions of Y!M that come out. > Nobody ever responded with a "Come now Windows users, wait for the > advertisers to tell Yahoo! > to make a better Y!M." No, you're not going to ever read that. > > I was sort of hoping, with the latest collaboration between Yahoo! and Apple > on the new iPhone, that we'd see better support in other areas. I disagree > with LNVTM1, in that I feel that Macintosh users need to gripe and complain > to get the quality that we want. Even if Yahoo! came out with an update > every two years, that would be better. > > --Rick > > --- In Yahoo_Messenger@ <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> , "daiyi666" <daiyi666@> > wrote: > > > > --- In Yahoo_Messenger@ <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> yahoogroups.com > <mailto:Yahoo_Messenger%40yahoogroups.com> , "LNVTM1" <lnvtm1@> wrote: > > > > > > I understand what you are saying but remember that Yahoo Messenger > > > is a free program supported by advertising dollars. > > > > > > Mac users only account for around 10% of computer users so it may > > > not be cost effective for Yahoo to spend millions of dollars to > > > develop a full-featured program for Macs... if the advertising > > > dollars do not warrant that kind of investment. I'm not a computer > > > programmer so I'm not sure if it's harder to build programs that > > > work on Mac's but I know that there are hundreds, if not thousands > > > of other programs that work on PC's that do not have compatible Mac > > > versions... it's not just YM. I sure hope you knew this before you > > > invested in a Mac. If the advertisers thought they were missing out > > > on a lot of money, they are the ones who would tell Yahoo to make a > better Mac version. > > > > > > > Millions of dollars? I highly doubt it would cost that much. Yahoo did > > a good job with > YIM > > 2.5.3 (though the interface is fuggly), so it's rather frustrating > > that 3 Beta has so many issues. I can't even log in now. I don't think > > it would be such an investment for Yahoo to put out a working product. > > No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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