Hi Lenny,

I went to the http://www.spywarewarrior.com site and found it far superior to 
the two comparison  sites.  My issue with the comparison sites is they are 
comparing apples to oranges.  It is like you go to a car dealer and he compares 
his 2008 model to a competitor's 2004 model.  Also when you go to a store, 
butcher shop or a car dealer, you usually know what to expect. But when most 
people start looking for anti-spy or anti-virus software it is because they are 
already infected and are desperate! The biggest problem is all the rogue 
programs. The next biggest problem is P2P. People down load legit programs with 
keygens; the programs are usually okay but the keygens are usually Trojans. You 
can also pick up a virus just by visiting a warez site. 

I have tried most anti-virus programs, both free and paid. same thing for 
firewalls and anti-spy. They all have some pros and some cons. 

I guess word of mouth is about the best way to go! Do not use google sponsored 
sites. They accept money from anyone including the rogue sites. Never click on 
a banner that says basically "Your computer is infected, click here for a free 
scan!". If you have children, you must supervise them if you let them use your 
computer. If they download a game, movie or song and the anti-virus goes off 
and they choose the option to ignore, you will have a big problem on your hands.

I have in the past posted several items to help others. I am not always 
available due to health reasons. 

John

LNVTM1 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: What about when you go to a store, butcher, 
car dealer, etc., for a
recommendation... they also sell the products.  It doesn't mean that they
aren't going to give you good information simply because they might profit
from the information.  What about a doctor or hospital?  I guess the old
"Caveat Emptor" (Buyer Beware) should be in the back of our minds at all
times.

Sure, it would be great to find completely independent information sources,
not tainted in the least by possible economic benefits but there aren't many
websites that do that... nor any other information media. 

I think what I was pointing out was you cannot rely on simply one source and
you should Google for forum posts and independent reviews from multiple
sources before going with a lesser known product.    

Of course, that's why the OP asked in a forum like this.  I, and others,
provide non-economic based replies to the best of our abilities and I
usually include links to try and support my information.  I thought I also
included http://www.spywarewarrior.com/ in my reply but I don't see it in
the reply below so here it is again as well as a couple of their pages.
AFAIK, they are independent and do not sell any products.  
http://www.spywarewarrior.com/rogue_anti-spyware.htm
http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-test-guide.htm
http://spywarewarrior.com/asw-features.htm

Lenny Vasbinder 
 
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-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Meister John
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:51 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: RE: [Y!M] Help !!!

Hi Lenny,
How can you trust a review site that also tries to sell you the products
they review? I noticed on the adware report site that the top 3 picks were
ones that they reviewed recently. Others on the list were reviewed up to 4
years ago! A lot of improvements to a product can be made in 4 years! A lot
of well known and proven products were not reviewed. It seems to me
companies pay the site to have their product reviewed and then pays the site
a cut on the sales the site generate!!! 

LNVTM1  wrote:

 "MALWARE" is simply the generic term for the entire group of
"MALicious
 softWARE" like spyware, viruses, trojans, adware, file sharing
programs,
 etc.
 
 http://anti-spyware-review.toptenreviews.com/spyhunter-review.html
lists
 SpyHunter as number 11 on it's list of rankings. If you were going
to buy
 one, you should have probably bought one of the top three. When it's
time
 for renewal, check out the reviews of yours versus the others and
make a
 decision. It's obvious that SpyHunter didn't stop your current
problem from
 happening... and it's not removing your current problem. That should
tell
 you something. Here's an older review of SpyHunter which gives it a
 "Abysmal" rating...
http://www.adwarereport.com/mt/archives/000053.html
 Here's their current rankings of anti-spyware programs. 
 http://www.adwarereport.com/mt/archives/000004.html
 
 I currently use CounterSpy but I've used SpySweeper before also. I
change
 from time to time as different beta-testing programs become
available so I
 can get the programs for free or very low cost. ;-) 
 
 With your firewall, anti-virus and anti-spyware, you shouldn't need
any
 other full time "anti-malware" programs running. I use the other
programs I
 listed.. like SpyBot, Ad-Aware, SpywareBlaster and online scans just
to
 double check my main defense and 99.9% of the time, they come up
clean also.
 
 I've never heard of Malguard so I just did a Google for 'malguard
review'
 and I don't see any reviews from any of the well known sites and I
don't
 even see much on it except for some kind of press release back in
2005
 http://www.computer-security-software.net/daily-articles/3.html
challenging
 hackers to hack a website supposedly protected by Malguard but then
not much
 since so maybe the hackers not only hacked it but stole the company
too.
 ;-) A regular Google search of Malguard came up with only 322
hits.... a
 very dismal number... and many of those hits are related to that
press
 release from 2005. I don't like the looks of this program.... since
I can't
 find much on it as far as independent reviews. I hope you didn't get
 another bogus piece of software when you downloaded Malguard.
 
 Lenny Vasbinder 
 
 FREE and automatic online remote backup of your documents, photos
and
 files... https://mozy.com/?ref=SY4ZSI Check out how simple and
secure it
 can be to use the Mozy remote backup system. Mozy will back up your
most
 important files and folders every day/night while you aren't using
your
 computer.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: [email protected]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of kathy kendall
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 8:47 AM
 To: [email protected]
 Subject: Re: [Y!M] Help !!!
 
 Lenny,
 
 I think I went blind....lol I do not see any MALWARE suggestions. I
see
 anti virus and anti spyware. But I was asking about MALWARE. I have
 Spyhunter for anti spyware, (which I paid for) and Avast anti virus,
and
 free version of Malguard, which is good so far, but i just wondered
if you
 knew of anything better than Malguard? I'm thinking that I need a
good
 Malware program because this is second time i got hit now, so i
figured
 protection was in order...lol Thanks
 
 Kathy
 
 
 
 ----- Original Message ----
 From: LNVTM1 
 To: [email protected]
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 1:33:11 AM
 Subject: RE: [Y!M] Help !!!
 
 Look at my previous message, below, where I outlined my suggestions.
 
 Lenny Vasbinder 
 
 FREE and automatic online remote backup of your documents, photos
and
 files... https://mozy.com/?ref=SY4ZSI Check
 out how simple and secure it
 can be to use the Mozy remote backup system. Mozy will back up your
most
 important files and folders every day/night while you aren't using
your
 computer.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: [email protected]
 
 [mailto:[email protected]
 ] On Behalf Of kathy kendall
 Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 3:09 AM
 To: [email protected] 
 Subject: Re: [Y!M] Help !!!
 
 Hi Lenny,
 Thanks so much for helping me out. Things are looking better, at the
 moment, I'm not sure I got all of it off. Some things do not work
still that
 did before, do you have any ideas for a free malware, program? The
one I
 used completely boged computer out. I had to remove it, it was only
free for
 15 days, then they wanted 20 bucks a month or something, I took it
off my
 computer I couldn't even sign in to yahoo home page. And when I
deleted the
 infections that it found it took me 3 hrs and 24 mins. to delete 9
items.
 Wayyyyy to slow..lol. Any other suggestions that you have I would
love to
 hear.
 Thanks again,
 Kathy
 
 
 ----- Original Message ----
 From: LNVTM1 >
 To: [email protected] 
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 4:27:27 PM
 Subject: RE: [Y!M] Help !!!
 
 I disagree about not using free programs... since there is no paid
version
 of an anti-spyware that will fully protect your computer either.
There are
 enough free programs that can be used as a multi-stage defense that
will use
 less system resources than one of the paid security suites.
 
 I run AVG Free 8.0 (anti-virus), ZoneAlarm Free Firewall and I've
used
 several different free anti-spyware programs. I do currently have a
paid
 version of CounterSpy that I got as a special post-beta price for
only $9.95
 a year but I wouldn't spend $29.00 or more for any anti-malware
program.
 There are simply too many good ones for free. If Sunbelt ever asks
me for
 more money, I'll simply move back to one of the many free versions.
 
 My suggested FREE arsenal for most people would be:
 
 AVG Free 8.0 Anti-Virus (there are other GOOD Free Anti-virus
programs as
 well) - running full time and doing daily scans
 
 ZoneAlarm Free Firewall (or Comodo Pro Firewall - Free also) -
running full
 time
 
 One of many free anti-spyware programs from a reputable company that
runs
 full time in the background. I currently use CounterSpy but I've
used
 Windows Defender (free) and I understand that AVG has a free version
of
 their anti-spyware and there are several others.
 
 SpywareBlaster - Free - is a great little program that doesn't use
any
 system resources except for when you manually update it on a weekly
basis
 and it goes in and sets up parameters in your system registry, hosts
file,
 etc. to PREVENT spyware from getting on your computer in the first
place.
 You should still use an anti-spyware program that runs full-time in
the
 background along with this program. 
 
 Other free anti-spyware programs that I use but only turn on and
scan once a
 week or if needed are... Spybot and Ad-Aware and one of the many
online
 scans... Window Live One Care is one I sent earlier since it not
only does a
 scan for malware but also cleans out temp files, fixes registry
issues and
 defrags the hard drive(s).
 
 Remember this... THERE IS NO ONE-SOURCE COMPANY OR PROGRAM THAT WILL
 COMPLETELY PROTECT YOUR COMPUTER. NONE OF THE SECURITY SUITES WILL
DO THE
 JOB EITHER. BESIDES HAVING YOUR MAIN THREE... FIREWALL, ANTI-VIRUS
AND
 ANTI-SPYWARE RUNNING FULL-TIME, YOU MUST ALSO USE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS
ON A
 WEEKLY SCAN BASIS (OR AS NEEDED IF YOU ARE HAVING ISSUES) TO BE SURE
YOU ARE
 KEEPING YOUR COMPUTER CLEAN. DON'T FALL FOR THE PEOPLE THAT SAY
MAC'S ARE
 SAFE OR FIREFOX IS SAFE... WHILE THAT OS AND BROWSER MIGHT NOT BE
UNDER
 ATTACK AS OFTEN AS MICROSOFT PRODUCTS, THEY STILL SUFFER FROM
SECURITY
 ATTACKS. IT'S JUST THAT SINCE MICROSOFT WINDOWS IS THE MOST POPULAR
OS AND
 INTERNET EXPLORER IS THE MOST POPULAR BROWSER, THE LOW-LIFE,
SCUM-BAG,
 I-WISH-THEY-WOULD-DIE-AND-BURN-IN-HELL HACKERS SPEND MOST OF THEIR
TIME
 CAUSING PROBLEMS FOR MICROSOFT.... kind of like a David vs. Goliath
thing...
 except hackers aren't helping people like David did.
 
 Lenny Vasbinder 
 
 FREE and automatic online remote backup of your documents, photos
and
 files... https://mozy.com/?ref=SY4ZSI 
 > Check out
 how simple and secure it can be to use the Mozy remote backup
system. Mozy
 will back up your most important files and folders every day/night
while you
 aren't using your computer.
 
 
 -----Original Message-----
 From: [email protected]
 
 
 >
 [mailto:[email protected]
 
 
 > ] On Behalf Of richard
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:37 AM
 To: [email protected] 
 
 >
 Subject: Re: [Y!M] Help !!!
 
 most if not all Free anti virus programs will not fully protect you
from a
 virus or spyware.
 spend the money and get an anti virus program that has virus
protection and
 malware / spyware protection.
 google antivirus programs and read about them, then buy it on ebay
for 1/2
 price, its worth it not to have problems with virus / malware/
spyware.
 there is nothing free in this world.
 
 
 ----- Original Message ----- 
 From: kathy kendall 
 
 
 > > 
 To: [email protected]
 
 
 >
 
 
 
 > > 
 Sent: Monday, May 19, 2008 11:29 AM
 Subject: [Y!M] Help !!!
 
 
 
 LENNY,
 I need to ask for your expertise (again..lol) I have another spyware
 company added on to my computer wanting me to buy thier service, and
they
 have attached to my system i cannot get rid of them. They won't even
let me
 on the internet to go to pogo, or poker or anything, everywhere I go
is "
 spies" to it. The name is WinSpywareProtect, do you know anything
about
 them? Or can you look up and see how to get rid of them, you are
only one I
 know who can find out this stuff. Thank you,
 
 My anti virus is Avast
 my spyware is Spyhunter
 Kathy
 
 

No virus found in this outgoing message.
Checked by AVG. 
Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 269.23.21/1458 - Release Date: 5/21/2008
7:21 AM


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