Hello,

This is an attempt to summarize the discussion about the Secdir review [1] and formulate a response.

At 03:18 04-03-10, Alexey Melnikov wrote:
RFC 5321 is also being revised by the YAM WG, so I would prefer any such text to go there.

I presume that the Area Director would be agreeable to not making any changes to draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-03.

Dave asked for the WG's opinion [2] and made a recommendation [3]. There hasn't been any objection to the following text for Section 5 of draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-03:

  This RFC does not discuss security issues and is not is not believed to
  raise any security issues not already endemic in electronic mail and
  present in fully conforming implementations of [RFC5321], including
  attacks facilitated by the presence of an option negotiation mechanism.

Alexey is not convinced that text discussing exploitation by malware is needed [4]. Alessandro agrees that corrections should not be made [5] at the cost of "leading to madness".

Ned suggested alternative text [6] and Tony Finch supported it.

  "Since MIME semantics are transport neutral the 8bitMIME option provides no
   added capability to disseminate malware than is provided by unextended 7bit
   SMTP."

John Klensin wrote the following text [7]:

  "Users of the email system should be aware that ignorant, non-conforming,
   and incompetent implementations of this and other email specifications
   can create vulnerabilities.  Such implementations should be avoided"

I'll highlight a comment from Ned as I believe that it is pertinent to the YAM WG's work:

  "This is a path to madness, or more accurately, to a world where security
   considerations contain so many obvious, irrelevant, or both issues that the
real issues specific to a given protcol or format simply get lost in all the other noise. And this is not a path which, if followed, will improve overall Internet security. To the extent it has an effect, if will be the opposite."

As there is no strong resolve, I suggest sending the following response to Sec-dir:

  The YAM WG discussed about the issues raised during the Sec-dir review of
  draft-ietf-yam-rfc1652bis-03 and concluded that:

  (i) The presence of an option negotiation mechanism is not believed to
      facilitate attacks or raise any security issues not already endemic
      in electronic mail and present in fully conforming implementations
      of RFC5321.

 (ii) Since MIME semantics are transport neutral the 8bitMIME option
      provides no added capability to disseminate malware than is provided
      by unextended 7bit SMTP.

Regards,
S. Moonesamy
YAM WG Secretary

1. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00366.html
2. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00370.html
3. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00385.html
4. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00386.html
5. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00382.html
6. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00388.html
7. http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/yam/current/msg00390.html

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