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Naganarasimha G R commented on YARN-5864:
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Thanks [~wangda], Seems to be a useful proposal to identify the critical queue 
at each level of hierarchy. But was wondering instead of ordering of queues 
based on fixed policy based on priority of the queue, could we introduce a 
queue ordering policy and one of its implementation being the Priority Queue 
ordering based policy so that if required in future we could have flexibility 
for other implementations (like the way fair supports)?  


> YARN Capacity Scheduler - Queue Priorities
> ------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: YARN-5864
>                 URL: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/YARN-5864
>             Project: Hadoop YARN
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>            Reporter: Wangda Tan
>            Assignee: Wangda Tan
>         Attachments: YARN-5864.poc-0.patch, 
> YARN-CapacityScheduler-Queue-Priorities-design-v1.pdf
>
>
> Currently, Capacity Scheduler at every parent-queue level uses relative 
> used-capacities of the chil-queues to decide which queue can get next 
> available resource first.
> For example,
> - Q1 & Q2 are child queues under queueA
> - Q1 has 20% of configured capacity, 5% of used-capacity and
> - Q2 has 80% of configured capacity, 8% of used-capacity.
> In the situation, the relative used-capacities are calculated as below
> - Relative used-capacity of Q1 is 5/20 = 0.25
> - Relative used-capacity of Q2 is 8/80 = 0.10
> In the above example, per today’s Capacity Scheduler’s algorithm, Q2 is 
> selected by the scheduler first to receive next available resource.
> Simply ordering queues according to relative used-capacities sometimes causes 
> a few troubles because scarce resources could be assigned to less-important 
> apps first.
> # Latency sensitivity: This can be a problem with latency sensitive 
> applications where waiting till the ‘other’ queue gets full is not going to 
> cut it. The delay in scheduling directly reflects in the response times of 
> these applications.
> # Resource fragmentation for large-container apps: Today’s algorithm also 
> causes issues with applications that need very large containers. It is 
> possible that existing queues are all within their resource guarantees but 
> their current allocation distribution on each node may be such that an 
> application which needs large container simply cannot fit on those nodes.
> Services:
> # The above problem (2) gets worse with long running applications. With short 
> running apps, previous containers may eventually finish and make enough space 
> for the apps with large containers. But with long running services in the 
> cluster, the large containers’ application may never get resources on any 
> nodes even if its demands are not yet met.
> # Long running services are sometimes more picky w.r.t placement than normal 
> batch apps. For example, for a long running service in a separate queue (say 
> queue=service), during peak hours it may want to launch instances on 50% of 
> the cluster nodes. On each node, it may want to launch a large container, say 
> 200G memory per container.



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